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Why does Greenpeace do things like this?

Number Six said:
Seriously, I wonder why they do it. I don't think this does anything except get their members time in jail and turns public opinion against them. But they obviously think it helps them otherwise they wouldn't do it.

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A lot of groups indulge in this kind of nonsense. PETA comes to mind. I'm left to conclude that many of these people are the same twits you probably knew in college who would do anything to embarrass their parents. So in that sense, I'm sure it's mission accomplished.
 
Because it has you talking about them. This is free publicity. It is obvious that someone getting arrested for climing a smokestack is doing it to make a point.

They have done nothing destructive or offensive. My brother was arrested for blocking the entrance to an AIDS conference, same deal , you do it to get your message out.

Same thing as when they had the prayer vigils outside the Alabama court house.
 
Yes, of course it gets them attention, but usually when groups try to get attention they try to get positive attention rather than negative attention. They have attention now in the sense that people say "Geez, I hate Greenpeace when they do stuff like that." It seems that that would hurt their cause rather than help it.

And blocking an AIDS conference or having a prayer vigil is quite a bit different than what these people did. Sit in-type things on public land are quite a bit different breaking into a power plant and putting your lives in danger.
 
Number Six said:
Yes, of course it gets them attention, but usually when groups try to get attention they try to get positive attention rather than negative attention.
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But if they have to decide between negative attention and NO attention, they'll take negative attention any day.
 
You know, after refelction, you're right, it really is that simple. I was thinking that groups would rather not get negative attention because then people wouldn't dislike them. But with negative attention the people will know about them, and before they can like you they have to know about you. It's a crass way of proceeding but in this world where the squeaky wheel gets the attnetion I bet it works better than being polite and playing but the rules.
 
And negative publicity is publicity. When they climb a smoke stack and fly a banner, you say 'ugh that's dumb', otherss say 'sp what' and sokme other say 'way cool'.

Publicity is about publicity, that is why Micheal Moore says he approves of people trying to trash his films.
 
Dancing David said:
And negative publicity is publicity. When they climb a smoke stack and fly a banner, you say 'ugh that's dumb', otherss say 'sp what' and sokme other say 'way cool'.

Publicity is about publicity, that is why Micheal Moore says he approves of people trying to trash his films.
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"I don't care what you say about me, as long as you say something about me, and as long as you spell my name right." -- George M. Cohan, the most famous actor on the Broadway stage during the first third of the 20th century, to reporters.

Still true.
 
Skeptic said:


"I don't care what you say about me, as long as you say something about me, and as long as you spell my name right." -- George M. Cohan, the most famous actor on the Broadway stage during the first third of the 20th century, to reporters.

Still true.
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"Love me or hate me, but spare me of your indifference."
- some Greek philosopher whose name I forgot

Edited to add: Sounds like a good sig line.
 
What if Greenpeace held a protest and nobody cared? Groups like that should educate and protest because you can't trust a corporation not to drain every molecule out of a resource for a nickle.

But I'm reminded of when I was in the service. We spent all day and night chasing protesters out of restricted areas of New Mexico. Finally it was decided that if someone wants to enter a clearly marked bombing run area by scaling a razor-wire fence to wander around a dangerous and partly radioactive desert wasteland ....let them. Just hope they don't step on any unexploded ordinance, stage a sit in on plates of trinitite or get caught in a strafing run.
 
Originally posted by Bottle or the Gun:
What if Greenpeace held a protest and nobody cared?
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Oh happy day, that I would live to see thee! :D

Groups like that should educate and protest because you can't trust a corporation not to drain every molecule out of a resource for a nickle.
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Nor would I trust Greenpeace to "educate".
 
There was an incident in Newfoundland back in 1983 or 1984 where several hundred dolphins got stranded when ice blocked them into shallow water. The only ship capable of breaking the ice and saving the dolphins that was close enough was a Greenpeace-owned vessel. But, once they were informed there would be no television coverage, Greenpeace instead sent their ship to Nova Scotia, where there were two distressed walruses--and a TV news crew. The thinking was that it's better to do a little and be well-publicized than do a lot and risk not receiving sufficient press.

People who are really committed to saving the environment go out and plant trees and start recycling centers. They don't break into Navy bases and throw blood on things. (And then discover, that even pre-9/11 breaking into a military base can have serious consequences!)
 
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