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Why does AIDS get so much money?

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I saw Bush the great compromiser talking about millions of dollars for AIDS today.
I couldn't help thinking what in the hell can governments do to stop the spread of AIDS. Are we going to send military forces armed with rubbers and night vision goggles to peek inside people's homes to see if they are having safe sex or not? This is one of the most preventable diseases in the world unless you get raped. People have known about this disease and how it's spread for the last 20 years. Unless it's getting spread by mosquitoes now and I haven't heard about it. I'm remember reading in P.J. O'roarke's book "All the trouble in the World" I believe, that diarrhea kills many times more innocent people, mostly children, than AIDS does. Of course 'bad' chemicals would be necessary to kill germs and bacteria in dirty water to make it drinkable.
Anyone have any theories?
 
AIDS is major humanitarian crisis in Africa. It may not mean much to you but it does to many others.

Some say the US with its stacking of the global free trade deck is partly responsible for the AIDS epidemic in Africa because many African countries are poor because of US greed and cannot afford medication to combat AIDS nor the means to prevent AIDS. Perhaps Bush has seen this. Who knows? Stranger things have happened.
 
AIDS gets a lot of money because a fairly large group of people lobbied and protested and generally made a big fuss about it, and in a democracy that usually gets results if you keep it up long enough.

If you're worried about diarrhea, why don't you mount the same kind of campaign and try to get some government spending on that as well? Start a charity, drum up some publicity and raise funds, get people to write to their representatives, hire a lobbying company, and generally do all the things people did to get AIDS noticed.
 
Infected: 40,000,000

Dead: 20,000,000

Cured: 00,000,000

Diarrhea is a symptom of some other malady like food poisoning or influenza. It would be ridiculous to pour money into research on symptom relief and not address the cause itself.

And although I would rather not touch the conspiracy theory, this statement:

[T]he US was responsible in breeding it for biological weapon purposes.
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Seems to directly contradict this one:

It was not man made[.]
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A little help?
 
In the past, AIDS received a large share of funds (in the US) as compared to other killers - such as heart disease and cancer. This was partially because the AIDS lobby is well organized and the people suffering from the disease are mobile and are truly debilitated until the late stages -- leaving several years or more where they can spend a great deal of time lobbying.

Side Note: This is not a criticism -- I'd be doing likewise.

More recently, the huge number of cases (in Africa, especially) has provided extra impetus. The sheer number of cases and deaths and the complete failure of the countries there to slow its dissemination has provided ample justification for continued spending.

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GrapeJ713 said:
I saw Bush the great compromiser talking about millions of dollars for AIDS today.
I couldn't help thinking what in the hell can governments do to stop the spread of AIDS. Are we going to send military forces armed with rubbers and night vision goggles to peek inside people's homes to see if they are having safe sex or not? This is one of the most preventable diseases in the world unless you get raped. People have known about this disease and how it's spread for the last 20 years. Unless it's getting spread by mosquitoes now and I haven't heard about it. I'm remember reading in P.J. O'roarke's book "All the trouble in the World" I believe, that diarrhea kills many times more innocent people, mostly children, than AIDS does. Of course 'bad' chemicals would be necessary to kill germs and bacteria in dirty water to make it drinkable.
Anyone have any theories?
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Because when it gets tough enough to spread via aerosol, we'd better know how to deal with it.
 
Why doesn't breast cancer research get more funds? What is the percentage of medical research dollars that goes to AIDS? Any one know, I bet it is not that huge.

The WHO(evil matriarchal terrorist one worlders) has recommended the palative of diarhea, it is water, alittle salt and a little rice flour.

I agree though that more money could be spent to help children around the world. There is a figure someone told me that 14 Million children die each year of preventable causes.

Aids is currently setting up to be the plauge of our lifetimes. Unfortunatly is is still spreading in our country, so maybe it can be prevented but who knos. Also a lot of people get it by having unprotected sex with a partner who is lying to them about thier lifestyle. A lot of people don't protect themselves because they feel it is a 'gay' disease, then they get it anyhow. There is also the issue of marital rape.

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Mr Manifesto said:
AIDS is major humanitarian crisis in Africa. It may not mean much to you but it does to many others.
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It may mean a lot to others, but the question is how to deal with it, and what priority do we give it.

Mr Manifesto said:
Some say the US with its stacking of the global free trade deck is partly responsible for the AIDS epidemic in Africa because many African countries are poor because of US greed and cannot afford medication to combat AIDS nor the means to prevent AIDS.
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The cost of preventing AIDS is actually very cheap... Don't have sex. (Well, that's the most effective way to prevent it.)

Medication to combat AIDS does extend the patient's life, but it isn't really a cure. And although it seems bad that American drug companies are charging high prices for the drugs, if American companies did NOT charge high prices, they could not afford to do more research into other cures.

And how is free trade to blame? If there were no push for global free trade, the African countries would still have troubles paying for drugs. (In fact, it may be even more difficult for them; The idea of 'free trade' is to improve the economy of all countries involved.)
 
Segnosaur said:

And how is free trade to blame? If there were no push for global free trade, the African countries would still have troubles paying for drugs. (In fact, it may be even more difficult for them; The idea of 'free trade' is to improve the economy of all countries involved.)
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Thats the idea of 'free trade'. The reality is that the economic big guns stack the cards in their own favour (because they can) while the poor get shafted.
 
Dancing David said:
Why doesn't breast cancer research get more funds? What is the percentage of medical research dollars that goes to AIDS? Any one know, I bet it is not that huge.
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Fumento has many articles on how AIDS research is getting more and more funding, often at the expense of the funding of diseases that kill more people (at least in the U.S.) Actually, breast cancer is actually better off (in terms of research funding) than other diseases like Prostate cancer and heart disease.

I suggest reading: http://www.fumento.com/amspec.html

Dancing David said:
Aids is currently setting up to be the plauge of our lifetimes. Unfortunatly is is still spreading in our country, so maybe it can be prevented but who knos. Also a lot of people get it by having unprotected sex with a partner who is lying to them about thier lifestyle. A lot of people don't protect themselves because they feel it is a 'gay' disease, then they get it anyhow. There is also the issue of marital rape.
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The spread of AIDS in the hetrosexual non-drug using community is nowhere near as bad as many had predicted. See: http://www.fumento.com/pozaids.html .

You may speak of 'a lot' of people getting it because of their partner lying, or through rape, but compared to the total number that get it through unsafe practices, it is very small. (And those other, unsafe practices have preventative measures.)

I do think we need to continue AIDS research, and I do hope we come up with a vacine or other cure; however, if the issue is to save lives, a better use of money is to: 1) Research diseases in North America that cause more deaths overall, and 2) Make sure food-aid in Africa gets to the right people.
 
Man always has a great interest in diseases they cant cure. Look at cancer. Its a control thing.

Plus its apples and oranges. Im sure money is being spent on fighting diareah. Its not an all or nothing.
 
Segenosaur: right on, wear condoms and use clean needles.
I was just trying to hack on the many stereotypes that are out there. Unfortunately we live in a society where it is okay to beat your wife but not to tell children the truth about sex.

Peace
dancingDavid
 
Mr Manifesto said:
AIDS is major humanitarian crisis in Africa. It may not mean much to you but it does to many others.

Some say the US with its stacking of the global free trade deck is partly responsible for the AIDS epidemic in Africa because many African countries are poor because of US greed and cannot afford medication to combat AIDS nor the means to prevent AIDS. Perhaps Bush has seen this. Who knows? Stranger things have happened.
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If the American government didn't have so many crop subsidies so the average american farmer could make a comfortable $60,000 a year. Then African farmers could produce food at a competitive price and sell to the United States. How can free trade impoverish a nation?
 
Dancing David said:
Segenosaur: right on, wear condoms and use clean needles.
I was just trying to hack on the many stereotypes that are out there. Unfortunately we live in a society where it is okay to beat your wife but not to tell children the truth about sex.

Peace
dancingDavid
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When did it become OK to beat your wife? I didn't get the memo on that.

Be careful when you 'hack on stereotypes'. You need for your 'hacking' to be true. Saying that AIDS is the 'plague of our lifetime' with no figures to back it up weakens your arguments.
 
Sorry , should have said 'I believe that AIDS will be the plauge of our lifetimes'.
I thought that I had heard of some frighteningly large percentages of HIV infection in certain countries and that China and India may be added to the list?

The idea that some areas may have infection rates over ten percent is frightening to me and why I used the word 'plauge'.

Peace
dancing david
 
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