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Why do people hate Jews?

senorpogo

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That's something I've been thinking about as of late. In the modern world, a lot of is has to do with Israel or Zionism, but it seems to me - with the average knowledge of history that I have - the Jews have been a targeted group since the get go. Why? Is a large portion come from some Christian's view of Jews as "Christ-killers"? Is it because Jews are seen as being affluent and well off? Why do people hate Jews?
 
I've often wondered about this myself. Perhaps the claim that they are God's chosen people is enough to incite religious intolerance, but I suspect that early on in Jewish history THEY were the illegal immigrants that threatened the communities they moved into. THEY were the group with dark eyes, dark hair and strange customs who seemingly refused to "intigrate" with the local populace by hanging onto their culture. The Jewish people have suffered and continue to suffer greatly for who they are, and current politics notwithstanding, I hope the knowledge of their past tribulations empathically influences their future.
 
senorpogo said:
That's something I've been thinking about as of late. In the modern world, a lot of is has to do with Israel or Zionism, but it seems to me - with the average knowledge of history that I have - the Jews have been a targeted group since the get go. Why? Is a large portion come from some Christian's view of Jews as "Christ-killers"? Is it because Jews are seen as being affluent and well off? Why do people hate Jews?
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Wiki has a pretty good article that can give some of the background reasons.

Wiki

Mainly they've always been forced to immigrate to new areas due to being expelled multiple times from what is now Israel. Therefore, they've been considered invaders of sorts, similar to how people in the US view Mexican immigrants. Of course Arabs have a deeper hatred as they believe that the Jews usurped their holy land. Anyway, the article doesn't directly speak to the reason for their perseuction, but you can read between the lines.
 
Its a good question. I don't think ChrisKiller is a major cause.
Speaking for my religious experience as a Baptist, we were all well aware that JC was jewish himself, as were his disciples. (Whenever I see doe-eyed pictures of the big J looking all caucasian I remind myself that he probably more closely resembled a young Yassar Arafat)
 
How did this get into the "Current Events" section?

see: Headline from 1260 C.E. --

Mongols Set Out To Conquer Islam

http://www.historyofjihad.org/mongol3.jpg
George Bush Wishes Them Well .... (Photo Op)

Things eventually turned out poorly for the Mongols in Palestine ----
Mamluks Crush the Mongols at 'Ayn Jalut (near Nazareth)

Unfortunately, their rule over Egypt and Palestine from 1260-1517 was disastrous for the Jews.
  • The Mamluks forced Jews to wear humiliating clothes, forbade their involvement in the government, and permitted them to work at only menial jobs. Jews were forbidden to ride any animal except the donkey, and this they had to ride side-saddle. They were forbidden to have wine, and there were regular house searches for the forbidden liquid.
    After the Mamluk-Circassians took over ruling the area, the plight of Jews under their rule didn't improve. When Ovadia Bertinoro traveled through Egypt and Palestine, he found almost no thriving Jewish communties except in Cairo. Those Jews whom he found were subject to tyranny and extortion. The Mamluks succeeded in impoverishing the Jewish community and limiting their existence in Palestine to four cities: Jerusalem, Hebron, Safed, and Tiberius. The situation under the Mamluks was so bad that when Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492, they didn't even consider fleeing to Egypt or Palestine.
 
senorpogo said:
That's something I've been thinking about as of late. In the modern world, a lot of is has to do with Israel or Zionism, but it seems to me - with the average knowledge of history that I have - the Jews have been a targeted group since the get go. Why? Is a large portion come from some Christian's view of Jews as "Christ-killers"? Is it because Jews are seen as being affluent and well off? Why do people hate Jews?
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I don't think most people care about jews much one way or the other. To the degree folks think about jews, I think they see them as a relatively successful ethnic grouping, like scandinavians, japanese, and anglosaxons. Jewish folks may have a comparative economic advantage in letting the world know when they are on the receiving end of hate, because of a concentration of jewish economic power in international media (as opposed to in oil, or cattle, or electronics manufacturing or what-not) ... hence I think we're likely to hear more about anti-semitism in France against jews then about discrimination against Koreans in Japan (or against mixed-race Koreans in Korea). But, as an empirical matter I don't think Jews are consistently more hated than a variety of other groups.

With Israel and the arab and muslim world, I think both are using their narrative of hate and antogonism of the other to help unify and solidify their diverse component populations: Israel uses it to unify its population composed of immigrants from farflung places, and the arab world uses it to build bridges between sunni and shiite, arab and persian, Arabian peninsulans and north africans and pakistanis. I think Strauss might have described this process in his writings, how wars against an "enemy" can be used to "solve" domestic challenges.
 
I think this question is the same as why americans are not performing well in world opinion polls.
 
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HarryKeogh said:
well, because they control the media for starters.
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I'm not real sure what you mean by this and I might be misunderstanding.....

What actually runs the media is money. People who sell products want to advertise on television, for example, but they want to advertise their product with a successful TV program that they think will help sell their product. The people who run the TV channel want that advertising money, so they do their level best to come up with programming that the advertisers will like, and that will cause the advertisers to spend more money. And of course the more successful a TV program is, the more that can be charged for an advertising spot during that program.

It's the same at newspapers. In the case of newspapers, usually the advertisers want the ad in certain spots in the paper. I used to be a production manager at a small paper and was often approached by advertisers who (falsely) thought I was responsible for placement of ads. Politicians in particular would attempt to influence me to place their ads in certain advantageous spots.

Whether or not "the Jews" own the media does not influence the content as much as advertising dollars do. The publisher of the paper I worked for would have put pretty much ANY ad in his paper if the person would cough up the money. And if that person demanded that certain stories not be covered, or they would pull out their ads, that had a lot more influence on the content of the paper than what the publisher (owner in this case) wanted in the paper.

I've heard people remark that "the Jews" are controlling what we see and hear and read in the media, but my experience indicates that money has more influence.
 
Amapola said:
I've heard people remark that "the Jews" are controlling what we see and hear and read in the media, but my experience indicates that money has more influence.
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That's because the Jews control the money!
 
Dear senorpogo,

From the horse's mouth, you can't get much more directly in than from Luke O'Farrell, professional anti-Jew who writes a column for the Heretical Press, linked to below.

The essential argument is not "The Jews control X" but that the Jews as an entity are acting in such a way as to promote race-mixing, feminism, and homosexuality, all of which Mr. Farrell views as a threat to the (admittedly definitely declining) white race. The presence of the Jews in white society, which they maintain through their media Holocaust Story which immunises them against all criticism and maintains a bulwark of white guilt, acts as a catalyst to break down white culture and sexual norms, drop immigration rules, and ultimately lead to the destruction of whites as a race.

That is why the Jews are hated by National Socialists.

O'Farrell Archive
http://www.heretical.com/ofarrell/index.html
 
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bob_kark said:
Mainly they've always been forced to immigrate to new areas due to being expelled multiple times from what is now Israel. Therefore, they've been considered invaders of sorts, similar to how people in the US view Mexican immigrants. Of course Arabs have a deeper hatred as they believe that the Jews usurped their holy land. Anyway, the article doesn't directly speak to the reason for their perseuction, but you can read between the lines.
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However, that Jews have serious problems with integrating due to their unique culture and religion is one thing, but another thing one might remember, is how they traditionally administrate their money as family fortunes.

We have a situation here in Europe now where immigrants from the Middle East are using the same administrative family-fortune system as the Jews have throughout history. The Middle East immigrants basically run all the smaller shops in northern Europe now. They have huge closed networks, and you often see them driving around in very expensive cars (but they are rarely owned by the individual behind the steering wheel, but by the entire family). As a result, they are often accused of being criminals and hustlers.

I believe, that the Jewish(/Arab) family-fortune system, and their closed networks, are one of the things that have made them haunted through recent history. Right now, the third largest political party in Denmark, is one that basically wants to see all the immigrants to the door as soon as possible, and they have already successfully made it very hard to immigrate to Denmark.

History repeats itself, but now in a more civilized manner.

I basically believe this to be a clash between socialism and older traditions, as you don't need a strong family to prevail and retire economically in Europe anymore. But that's a seperate post.
 
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