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Where is the Common Ground?

Fudbucker

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"Wacky Omarosa, who got fired 3 times on the Apprentice, now got fired for the last time. She never made it, never will. She begged me for a job, tears in her eyes, I said Ok. People in the White House hated her. She was vicious, but not smart. I would rarely see her but heard....

While I know it’s “not presidential” to take on a lowlife like Omarosa, and while I would rather not be doing so, this is a modern day form of communication and I know the Fake News Media will be working overtime to make even Wacky Omarosa look legitimate as possible. Sorry!"

Can you imagine what would have happened if Obama or Bush had said something this retarded? And this is just example A in the ongoing **** show.

How can anyone take a Trump supporter seriously? What common ground does an intelligent person have with these people?
 
I'm afraid that in many cases the only common ground is superficial chatter and movie night with popcorn.
 
Seems he's getting in before her tell all book hits the shelves. From what I have heard she doesn't have any love left for Trump and so doesn't hold back, at least in one part calling Trump mentally unstable.
 
I wonder if there are any conservatives left here who think debasing the office this much was worth a Supreme Court pick.
 
Fudbucker said:
I wonder if there are any conservatives left here who think debasing the office this much was worth a Supreme Court pick.
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TWO Supreme Court justices. And counting.

Now my thought is that the best way to reach common ground is to come out and let the other side know that you think they are not intelligent.

Solid.
 
Fudbucker said:
"Wacky Omarosa, who got fired 3 times on the Apprentice, now got fired for the last time. She never made it, never will. She begged me for a job, tears in her eyes, I said Ok. People in the White House hated her. She was vicious, but not smart. I would rarely see her but heard....

While I know it’s “not presidential” to take on a lowlife like Omarosa, and while I would rather not be doing so, this is a modern day form of communication and I know the Fake News Media will be working overtime to make even Wacky Omarosa look legitimate as possible. Sorry!"

Can you imagine what would have happened if Obama or Bush had said something this retarded? And this is just example A in the ongoing **** show.

How can anyone take a Trump supporter seriously? What common ground does an intelligent person have with these people?
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And that was pretty much word for word what he heard on Fox and Friends just a few minutes earlier. He can't even rant out of his own head.
 
President Trump is such a bleeding heart. He gave this Black woman opportunity after opportunity, but she proved she wasn't good enough to serve our favorite president.
 
The Big Dog said:
TWO Supreme Court justices. And counting.

Now my thought is that the best way to reach common ground is to come out and let the other side know that you think they are not intelligent.

Solid.
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How do you reach common ground with people who oppose you no matter the issue and not matter what you do, who refuse to acknowledge their hypocrisy, and are almost never right about anything?

Like dealing with creationists, flat earthers, anti-vaxxers, etc., it's about ideology. Facts and reason do influence them. Where is the common ground?
 
You reach common ground by taking over all three government branches and making it illegal to disagree with the government. Republicans have taken major steps in this direction. Like TBD says, 2 SCOTUS and counting.
 
Fudbucker said:
I wonder if there are any conservatives left here who think debasing the office this much was worth a Supreme Court pick.
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There's a whole lot of denial going on. They tell themselves "it's the policies", they can forget/forgive the whole pile of **** that is Trump and imagine he's the magic man.

The economy's good. Sure, when you inherited a good economy and you injected an unneeded stimulus tax cut into to, the facade looks rosy pink.

Deficit, don't show me that. Pollution that goes with the supposed wonderful deregulation, nope, don't want to see that. Atrocious actions toward Hispanic immigrants, I'm white, I hear they broke some laws, and those Muslims, we can't have them taking over this good Christian country.

That is who you are talking about that think Trump is worth it.

I heard pundits today saying the amount of dishonesty and pettiness that is Trump isn't new. Other politicians were just as bad. So, they still don't accept that Trump IS NOT NORMAL.
 
The Big Dog said:
TWO Supreme Court justices. And counting.

Now my thought is that the best way to reach common ground is to come out and let the other side know that you think they are not intelligent.

Solid.
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What did you think about Trump's behavior around this hire?
 
I think anyone who still supports this POS after all he has done to debase the office of POTUS has lost any benefit of a doubt I might once have given them. Frankly, I have no respect for the intelligence of anyone that easily deceived by such an obvious and self-serving, loathsome toad.
 
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The common ground is that we are all prone to the same cognitive biases and tribalism which is whats driving Trumps support at this point. Believe it or not, a lot of dems, probably most would line up behind a crazy loon if he managed to get elected too. Probably not as many as the GOP but still.

Note the next thing is not a "What about" but rather the most obvious similar though not as extreme examples of dems forgiving the sins of their leaders even when they are quite contrary to the state ideals of most dems. Bill Clinton was a serial womanizer and had been accused of sexual assault then ****** and intern in the oval office the the political party of women's rights just said, "its only sex".

So the point is, the common ground is that all people are most skilled at crafting post hoc rationalizations for the decisions we mostly make with out thinking about it much first. Even we enlightened skeptics.

That and he supreme court picks and a lot of his actual policy are pretty conservative regardless of the **** spewing from his mouth.
 
ahhell said:
That and he supreme court picks and a lot of his actual policy are pretty conservative regardless of the **** spewing from his mouth.
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Bingo. Stop paying attention to Twitter, and politics starts seeming a lot more normal.
 
A Democratic President behaving as a national embarrassment on the world stage (sucking up to Putin at Helsinki, caging children, kowtowing to Kim, etc., etc., etc.) would suffer serious pushback from his Party and voters. But with Trump's supporters it's "America, **** yeah!"

The Dems ousted a Senator of theirs based on a single (adult) person's claims of sexual impropriety, but the Repubs elect "Grab 'em by the pussy!" Trump while he was also standing accused by more than a dozen women, *and* they tried to elect another creep for Senator accused of molesting teens.

Indeed. Where's the common ground?
 
A line in the sand:

"To defy the authority of empirical evidence is to disqualify oneself as someone worthy of critical engagement in a dialogue."

Tenzin Gyatso

(Except dialogs about B movies, such as The Meg)
 
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