Whats up with Rudi Gulliani?

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I was wathing him on tV news the other day. He was critiquing the Dem convention.

What is up with Rudy G now??? Does he have a job?? I use to respect the guy, but now he seems to be a GOP shill who runs around the country as a professional fundrasier.

Has he become a Republican Jessie Jackson?
 
Giuliani is an ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊. In all seriousness, 9/11 was the best thing to ever happen to him, because it made everyone forget all the stupid things he had done as mayor.
 
I heard an audio snippet of his from a public appearance last Thursday (the last day of the Dem convention). He repeated the oft-quoted bit of Kerry's: "I voted for the bill before I voted against it." Giuliani's cadence dripped with sarcasm and the audience laughed derisively (never mind Kerry's statement has been shown to be perfectly reasonable within its context). The former mayor of NY then added, "Doesn't that tell you all you need to know about John Kerry?"

Let me ask you something, Mr. Mayor. When you first got married, did you vow before God (being a practicing Catholic) to honor and cherish your wife, in sickness and in health, until death you would part? Yes? So, why the divorce? Would you not say that you voted for your first wife before you voted against her? Hmm?

Sadly, Rudy is first and foremost a partisan. To be expected, but still too bad.
 
Nasarius said:
Giuliani is an a**hole. In all seriousness, 9/11 was the best thing to ever happen to him, because it made everyone forget all the stupid things he had done as mayor.
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Actually, having come to New York a few years after "Rudy" came to office, I believe it is the general consensus in the city that he was one of the greatest mayors New York City ever had. He took a city full of crime, corruption, and dirt and made it a vibrant, pleasant, clean and safe place to live.

I had a high opinion of him long before 9/11, but when it came it was, so to speak, "the icing on the cake". He showed leadership and remained cool-headed when then city needed it most. His handling of the situation was first-rate; I doubt anybody else could have been nearly as effective.
 
I believe Rudy is running for Supreme Court Justice.

He's known to be pro-choice, so the Democrats maybe would not filibuster him.
 
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Abdul Alhazred said:
I believe Rudy is running for Supreme Court Justice.
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Do you have a source for that?
 
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Tony said:
Do you have a source for that?
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Just my opinion. I've not seen anything like that in the media.

If Bush loses in November, we will never know.
 
Skeptic said:


I had a high opinion of him long before 9/11, but when it came it was, so to speak, "the icing on the cake". He showed leadership and remained cool-headed when then city needed it most. His handling of the situation was first-rate; I doubt anybody else could have been nearly as effective.
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I've been curious about this. Over here on the West coast, it seems he he did nothing particularly spectacular. He didn't crawl into the fetal position on camera. A good thing. He got lots of camera time. But he seemed to behave pretty much how I'd expect my mayor to have done. That is to say, not terribly remarkable. But perfectly satisfactory.

Did he do anything extrordinary? Simply being mayor during the 9/11 attack doesn't really cut it in my book.
 
Skeptic said:
Actually, having come to New York a few years after "Rudy" came to office, I believe it is the general consensus in the city that he was one of the greatest mayors New York City ever had. He took a city full of crime, corruption, and dirt and made it a vibrant, pleasant, clean and safe place to live.

I had a high opinion of him long before 9/11, but when it came it was, so to speak, "the icing on the cake". He showed leadership and remained cool-headed when then city needed it most. His handling of the situation was first-rate; I doubt anybody else could have been nearly as effective.
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as a New Yorker, I agree with you 100%. He was an absolutely fantastic mayor. Positively huge decreases in crime and turned Times Square from porn central to a tourist mecca bringing in huge sums of money into the city's coffers in the process (and Disneys but whatever). Bloomberg has kept up the good work Giuliani has done.

with that said, I hate the fact that he's ripping into the dems considering what the GOP has done the past 4 years. Wake up, Rudy. Bush is way more conservative than Rudy was and Giuliani was fiscally responsible.
 
I've been curious about this. Over here on the West coast, it seems he he did nothing particularly spectacular. He didn't crawl into the fetal position on camera. A good thing. He got lots of camera time. But he seemed to behave pretty much how I'd expect my mayor to have done. That is to say, not terribly remarkable. But perfectly satisfactory.

Precisely. The fact that his behavior didn't seem remarakable is just the point. Just about any way where his behavior could have been remarkable would have been bad.

How easy it would have been for him, for example, to make long, hollow speeches about bravery and determination instead of giving factual information; or to dominate the scene completely and not let his police and fire chief so much limelight. On the other hand, it would have been easy for him to disappear from the cameras, citing pressing emergency measures, and let his lieutenants deal with the tough questions. That would have been remarkable. He did none of that. It's a balance that's very hard to strike, and he succeeded admireably.
 
Originally posted by Skeptic
"Actually, having come to New York a few years after "Rudy" came to office, I believe it is the general consensus in the city that he was one of the greatest mayors New York City ever had. He took a city full of crime, corruption, and dirt and made it a vibrant, pleasant, clean and safe place to live."

I thought that was one of the complaints levelled against him...that he 'ruined' the good old NYC and cluttered it up with a bunch of tourists.
 
crimresearch said:
Originally posted by Skeptic
"Actually, having come to New York a few years after "Rudy" came to office, I believe it is the general consensus in the city that he was one of the greatest mayors New York City ever had. He took a city full of crime, corruption, and dirt and made it a vibrant, pleasant, clean and safe place to live."

I thought that was one of the complaints levelled against him...that he 'ruined' the good old NYC and cluttered it up with a bunch of tourists.
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When Benito-- *cough* *cough* Rudy Guiliani came to office, midtown New York, especially around 42nd street, was a collection of stip clubs, "adult" shops, whorehouses, drug dealers, muggers, panhandlers, and so on. He cleaned it up and made it a vibrant business center, with a lot of "big name" shops, theatres, restaurants, etc., etc.

Those who complain about this are being waaaaaaay too nostalgic--I'll take a "Toys'R'Us" store over a crackhouse every day, thank you, even if it is selling the latest geegaws from some silly TV show. And they forget that the "real" Times Square--before its decline in the 60s and 70s--was precisely what it is today: a thriving business district with a lot of tourist appeal.
 
Skeptic said:
When Benito-- *cough* *cough* Rudy Guiliani came to office, midtown New York, especially around 42nd street, was a collection of stip clubs, "adult" shops, whorehouses, drug dealers, muggers, panhandlers, and so on. He cleaned it up and made it a vibrant business center, with a lot of "big name" shops, theatres, restaurants, etc., etc.

Those who complain about this are being waaaaaaay too nostalgic--I'll take a "Toys'R'Us" store over a crackhouse every day, thank you, even if it is selling the latest geegaws from some silly TV show. And they forget that the "real" Times Square--before its decline in the 60s and 70s--was precisely what it is today: a thriving business district with a lot of tourist appeal.
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Same thing happened in Memphis... in the late 60s, early 70s, Beale Street was a bunch of lifeless pawnshops and boarded up stores, good only as a training ground for model muggings....then in the 80s revitalization, it was filled up with chain restaurants peddling oceans of beer to local 20-30 somethings and tourists...

And there is a steady roar of manufactured nostalgia (mostly from folks who came to here in the mid 80s ) for the 'good old days' when Elvis and W.C. Handy and Mayor Crump sat around on Beale jamming with Furry Lewis.
 
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