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What would cause this experience?

KFCA

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When I was in my mid-20ties, I went home for lunch one day, stayed longer than I should have, which necessitated me running (literally) back to the office full-speed for a 1pm meeting.

As I was running, I was transported back in time for a few minutes & I became not a 25 year old running back to work, but a grammar school child running back to school (I was ALWAYS running late to school back then). It was not that I "remembered", but mentally I was actually in a different place. It was truly weird.

This happened over 40 years ago
& I still wonder about it. I've certainly had to "run" on other occasions, but have not had the same experience...just that one time.

Any ideas?
 
How do you know you were in a different place? Did your surroundings change? If so, how?

Did your physical body appear to change?

How long did it last and what happened when it wore off? How did you feel?
 
I find the situation hard to explain.

As far as my "surroundings", I wasn't also transported back to my old neighborhood at age 10 running to school. But I also lost awareness of my then current surroundings at the time...like my surroundings didn't exist.

This "existence" lasted probably about maybe only 3 or 4 minutes.

I didn't physically change...at least from my viewpoint.

My reaction after coming out of it? I was slightly shaken, but it was a pleasant experience. Just has stayed with me all these years long after experiences of much more consequence have been forgotten.
 
Did you consider anoxia? Perhaps running so hard caused a lack of oxygen to your brain and you started halucinating.
 
Please don't take this the wrong way, but my guess would be that your imagination went a little wild while you were running, and then your imperfect, human memory embellished the experience after the fact. What we think we remember of an event is actually the post-processed data stored in long-term memory. It's the reason eyewitness testimony is so unreliable - people think they know what they saw, without realizing that their memories are not raw, but have been interpreted by their conscious brains and *then* stored away.
 
Did you run faster than 88 miles per hour?


But seriously it sounds like CurtC has the best explanation. Our memories are imperfect, and hyperventilation or oxygen deprivation can trigger weird illusions. And hallucinations can just happen.

Also medications, and recreational drugs can cause bizarre illusions, even a long time after taken (not that I wish to imply that you have ever taken them, but if you had then it's a possibility).
 
so you had a vivid flashback-type memory to when you were in grade school. what exactly is there to explain? you say you were only transported mentally, so there wasn't anything "real" that changed.
 
CC, not sure what you're saying. I'm not embellishing my story...I've never told anyone about it until now & it was so simple, there isn't much to be added dramatically through the years.

I have run just as fast, for longer periods of time, many, many times, but neither before, nor since, have I had had that odd experience.

And drugs, legal, illegal or even over-the-counter didn't enter into it. Perhaps it was something I ate for lunch?
 
If you were tired and mentally suggestable, and if there was anything about the environment that evoked being younger, particularly smells, then perhaps it could mentally put you in a state in which you felt as if you were in the past.
 
Y: I think it was quite differet than a "vivid, flash-back, memory" (though I'm not exactly sure what you had in mind.)

For example, in 1958 a friend & I went to the Big City of New York. Went to Radio City Music Hall & saw the Rockettes & a movie. The lady sitting next to me was wearing a dazzling perfume I had to ask her what it was. Well, of course, Chanel No. 5. Flash forward a number of years & again, coincidentally I was sitting next to a woman (this time in San Francisco) who was wearing Chanel No. 5. This immediately gave me a flash-back memory to my New York experience; HOWEVER, at no time did I BECOME that 18-year old girl sitting at Radio City, unlike my running experience when I smehow reverted to BEING 10 years old again, albeit for a very brief time.
 
Which seems more likely...

1)You went through a space/time continuum where you actually travelled back in time.

2) Your biomechanical brain had a hallucianation for some reason.

I submit that LSD users experience No. 2 quite easily... and so did you for some unexplained reason.
 
I still don't understand how you knew you had travelled back. If YOU didn't change, and your surroundings didn't change, what WAS different? Just the way you felt?

If so, I had a similar experience last week. I'm a teacher, and I was standing in our school assembly when I suddenly felt incredibly tall. I mean, I AM much taller than most of the kids, but I felt even taller than usual. I even seemed to be considerably larger than the other teachers.

The feeling eventually passed and I put it down to skipping breakfast that morning, but it was quite unnerving at the time.
 
Yes. I guess you could say it was a "feeling" as I definitely wasn't also transported back to my old midwestern neighborhood. It was like being in a vacuum where I HAD to get back to school before the afternoon bell rang. Maybe like a "waking nightmare" if there is such a thing.

BTW, I'm perfectly willing to chalk it up to "mind tricks". I know that little apparatus can do some strange things.
 
Running can be hypnotic, especially if you run a lot. So can driving. It doesn't exactly require tons of mental effort.

I used to scare the crap out of myself 'daydreaming' while driving. It was never that I drove unsafely, it's just that I would start to daydream because driving didn't take up that much mental capacity, there were no major decisions, and it was a familiar route.

More than once I'd be 'startled' to find myself almost home, with little to no memory of the time passed, other than in daydreaming. At the time I thought it was due to being a flaky teenager, but it's actually not all that uncommon. When things occurred that DID require attention, or were unusual, it wasn't like my reaction time was slowed.

Perhaps that's all it was, and because the daydream was related to what you were also physically doing, it seemed that much more realistic.
 
I think you watched "The Butterfly Effect" and failed to realize that the story is fictional.
 
Marian said:
Running can be hypnotic, especially if you run a lot. So can driving. It doesn't exactly require tons of mental effort.

I don't know about driving but running, any fairly strenuous exercise causes the release of endorphins. People who run or exercise often refer to the "high" they experience.
 
KFCA said:
Yes. I guess you could say it was a "feeling" as I definitely wasn't also transported back to my old midwestern neighborhood. It was like being in a vacuum where I HAD to get back to school before the afternoon bell rang. Maybe like a "waking nightmare" if there is such a thing.

BTW, I'm perfectly willing to chalk it up to "mind tricks". I know that little apparatus can do some strange things.

I think this type of experience is more common than you might think. It was so vivid that it appears to you as a 'once in a lifetime experience'. As you said, you have run many times since and not experienced this trick of the mind. But you will never be able to create the exact triggers that made your experience seem so real.

You were under stress not to be late for 'school' -- work. You had had a lunch -- heavy? Any alcohol? Caffeine? Any mushrooms? (:))

Maybe you had a very important meeting. As Marian so rightly said, running can be 'mindless' and hypnotic. Adreneline is flowing, and regular sports people know of the 'high' they experience, especially after breaking through mental barriers. I know three people who are addicted to running. Two of them used it as a technique to give up mild smoking (like 5 cigs a day). Then they got hooked. Aren't we all 'hooked' on something?

Another clue might be your story about the perfume triggering a lesser experience. It may well have been a strong, long- unremembered smell plus the above that made this one so realistic. [like boiled fish, see below]

Smells that I seldom experience now, that bring back memories and a sense of place (albeit mild) include:

Primary school -- heavy smells of floor wax, wooden desks, plasticine, raffia (ubiquitous in classrooms at that time, it seems), chalk dust, crayons, pencil sharpenings, yucky paste glue (in buckets for papier-mache, smelled like marzipan), one male teacher who was a pipe smoker. Needless to say he didn't smoke in class, but always seemed to have a lot of 'meetings' where he left the class until the noise level built to a crescendo.

Wet coats hanging in cloakroom. Boys' toilet -- disgusting and disguised by industrial-strength disinfectant that smelled like -- disinfectant. Sanded puke. The slightly sickly smell of forty-two kids slurping warm milk all at the same time. (Oh, those class sizes!) I was a milk monitor.:)

Lunch time -- Friday -- milk-boiled fish in school canteen. I hated this then, but like it now. The canteen macaroni-cheese days. This smelled like a mixture of the warm milk and the sanded puke :(

If you ever go back to your primary school as an adult, it can be a genuinely moving experience with memories flooding back triggered by such smells.

Secondary school -- horrible, stinky, sweaty gym changing-rooms mixed with ozone/chlorine smell from pool. Stale smoke in boys' toilet. Woodwork class, mechanics class, and chemistry class smells. Disinfectant. Wet coats again.

The subtle fragrance of the most beautiful girl in English class when a teacher did the seating allocation and I got to sit beside Patricia. It was ecstacy, but for a shy lad, it was also mortifying. The experience must have been AWFUL for Pat since I literally doused myself with (dare I mention?) BRUT, as per 'Enry Cooper -- 'splash it all over'. We did Macbeth that term, and at 'Now, pat, now might I do it . . .' I was so besotted by this angel, that I had a 'blusher' of very crimson proportions as my secret teenage fantasies played tricks with the phrase. I was not thinking about murder. :) Oh my, she was gorgeous!

Work -- office cleaning materials smells, a hot adding machine, an extremely hot co-worker, new bank notes. Later work -- the stale smell of beer in a bar, first thing in the morning, and smelly old bank notes. (Boy, that bank sure went downhill :)) Oh -- other work -- boiler suits, hot machine oil, welding shop -- singed boiler suits, carpentry shop.

Anyway, I ramble on! I'd put your experience down to a stress and aroma-triggered, vivid flashback -- like deja vu on steroids.:) Very interesting, though. If you were a JustGeoff-type, you might have believed the framework of time had warped and taken it as a life-changing mystical experience. But you've done the sensible thing and looked for mind tricks.
 
To The Great Thor:

Thanks for the Lovely Walk Down Your Memory Lane!

BTW, I did visit my grammar school in much later years, but it appeared someone drastically lowered the hallway water fountins. I wasn't too happy about how the desks shrunk either.
 

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