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What is a bully?

Justinian2

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What do you think of the link to the Characteristics of a bully?
Do you think bullies precipitated any of the 59 School shootings that have happened in the last 15 years?

Would being surrounded by bullies 24-7 make someone snap?
Is humor a sign of someone that is NOT a bully?
Do you think people like Simon Cowell are enablers for bullies?

Please follow the member rules and stick to the subject.
 
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Dear Justinian2,

A bully is someone who gets a mild emotional high off of terrorising people. In other words, a bully is a low-grade terrorist.

Cpl Ferro
 
Dear Justinian2,

A bully is someone who gets a mild emotional high off of terrorising people. In other words, a bully is a low-grade terrorist.

Cpl Ferro

I like that description!

Do you think that school bullies constitute 15% of the students as suggested by the descriptive link provided in the OP?

That link also suggests that they pick on someone that can't defend themselves. Do you think that's accurate?

Can someone on the internet really defend themselves against a gang of annonymous posters/bullies?

Do bullies precipitate school shootings? There are some indications that the shooters are bullies and some that the shooters are themselves victims of the bullies.
 
I like that description!

Do you think that school bullies constitute 15% of the students as suggested by the descriptive link provided in the OP?

That link also suggests that they pick on someone that can't defend themselves. Do you think that's accurate?

Can someone on the internet really defend themselves against a gang of annonymous posters/bullies?

Do bullies precipitate school shootings? There are some indications that the shooters are bullies and some that the shooters are themselves victims of the bullies.

Dear Justinian2,

The only questions of yours I can offer answers to is #2: Of course. Someone who can defend themselves isn't a terror-target.

And #3: How can anyone defend themselves against Internet attacks and libel? Some of these cases turn into not just bullying but stalking, as the attackers hunt for the victims.

Cpl Ferro
 
Nope, the bully in my class was a regular comedian. That didn't stop him from being a total ass to certain people. Actually, derisive humor is one of the bully's favorite tools of torture.

This quote is from the link provided in the OP:
Often, high scale bullies have "lieutenants." Lieutenants don't bully others until the main bully is present; they seek approval of a parent-figure, however distorted that may be from our point of view.

Do you think this is true?
Do bullies form gangs?
 
I like that description!

Do you think that school bullies constitute 15% of the students as suggested by the descriptive link provided in the OP?

That link also suggests that they pick on someone that can't defend themselves. Do you think that's accurate?

Can someone on the internet really defend themselves against a gang of annonymous posters/bullies?

Do bullies precipitate school shootings? There are some indications that the shooters are bullies and some that the shooters are themselves victims of the bullies.

Its actually pretty easy to defend one's self against folks on the net, there are things such as ignore features, or simply turning off one's computer, or avoiding the site in which the bullying is occurring.

Putting so much stock in the net that one feels that they cannot escape "cyber bullies" , is a sign one needs to use the net less.

What i wouldn't have given for any percentage of the bullying i experienced in my grade and high school days to have merely been cyber in nature.

As someone who had been bullied quite frequently ( was a 300 pound 9th grader, and obviously this was a life long problem up until that point. When this was rectified, my rather eclectic style became the focus. ), i can honestly say that it helped shape quite a few skills that i am glad i posses as an adult.

First and formost is a quick wit, and well placed turn of phrase. When it comes to people making fun of someone, they only succeed as far as they can make others laugh, when your funnier than they are, they quickly turn their ire somewhere else. Years of having stale insults tossed my way sharpened skills i use in acting, and daily life in regards to conversation. Without the bullies i would be no where near my current level of producing bon mots.

Second is conflict resolution. While i have taken and enjoy martial arts of various kinds, i do not like violence. Or rather i do not like the fact that if i protect myself , i will have to deal with all kinds of crap afterwards. Those same years of bullying have given me a good insight into human nature, and how to turn it away from a violent or otherwise unpleasant course of action. So much so, that 3 or 4 years ago, a group of drunken louts looking for a fight stumbled across my friends and I, with a bit of a silver tongue, and a bit of salesmanship, the conflict ended with them improperly using bottle rockets we had procured ( as per my prodding that they were at least as tough as the jackass gents.) , and harming themselves severely enough to have to go to a hospital, and not only that, but thanking me for the privilege.

Even in sales based jobs this is quite the advantage.

Bullying sucks, to be sure, but it also creates character, drive and determination. While, at the time i would have loved for the bullying to stop, looking back it helped me become the person i am, and that is a person that i like.
 
I like that description!

Do you think that school bullies constitute 15% of the students as suggested by the descriptive link provided in the OP?

I've no way of knowing the accuracy of the source provided, because the source offers only one citation for the assertions, and that poorly. It gives no date for the study, no author(s), and not even a link to the proper study so the reader can examine it for him/herself.

The source is sketchy, in and of itself. I don't trust it. Chakras? Really? :rolleyes: Perhaps you could find a more reliable, more informative source and cite that, instead.

My personal experience, both in childhood, and in motherhood, suggests that the number is extremely variable, and a percentage can only be approximated. Any child, even a bullied child, can act as a bully.

That link also suggests that they pick on someone that can't defend themselves. Do you think that's accurate?

Seems to be something of a given. If a child could/would defend him- or herself, the bullies would have a more difficult target. But even that sometimes doesn't stop bullying. Usually, it just makes the bully choose another target, but sometimes it makes the bully redouble his or her efforts until even the student trying to fight back surrenders. A concerted campaign, especially when more than one bully is involved, is overwhelming.

Can someone on the internet really defend themselves against a gang of annonymous posters/bullies?

Not really. You can try to ignore online bullying, but ignoring it won't make it stop (despite what the adults tell you), and it is often more vicious and concerted than face-to-face bullying. You don't have to have a FB account to know full well that comments are being made about you on the FBs of others; cell cam videos can be posted to YouTube, and anyone can see those. Online bullying is usually more intense, more protracted, and far less supervised.

Do bullies precipitate school shootings? There are some indications that the shooters are bullies and some that the shooters are themselves victims of the bullies.

Many variables are involved in such events. Bullying (victim or perpetrator) likely plays a part, to whatever extent, in many cases. But it's only one factor.
 
Dear Justinian2,

The only questions of yours I can offer answers to is #2: Of course. Someone who can defend themselves isn't a terror-target.

And #3: How can anyone defend themselves against Internet attacks and libel? Some of these cases turn into not just bullying but stalking, as the attackers hunt for the victims.

Cpl Ferro

From the OP link:

The majority of children don't get caught in the game of a bully. They fend off bullies with humor. They are quick to offer compromises when a bully tries to bully them, thus creating the impression on the bully that they want to be nice guys and get along. They move around with friends unlike the typical victim of bullying who is passive and stays alone. (File: "Bullying index:child devpt.)

Do you think that humor is a method of fending off the bullies? Seems like internet bullies use the straight foward insults like silly, stupid, pathetic or the world famous "you're an idiot". They never make a light hearted and humorous attempt to degrade; they are blunt, not witty, have no humor and can't understand humor.

I knew a guy in school that used to interrupt the class with witty remarks. He was a poor student, but had the wit of a genius. Some of the teachers used to give and take with him and let him express himself. He was disruptive, but he wasn't a bully.

The biggest bully I knew and his 'lieutenant' became policemen. The bully rose to become chief of police in a small town. He sang "Happy Birthday to you, you belong in a zoo" at my tenth birthday (before becoming a policeman). My parents never said anything to me, but he was never invited over again.
 
What do you think of the link to the Characteristics of a bully?
Do you think bullies precipitated any of the 59 School shootings that have happened in the last 15 years?

Would being surrounded by bullies 24-7 make someone snap?
Is humor a sign of someone that is NOT a bully?
Do you think people like Simon Cowell are enablers for bullies?

Please follow the member rules and stick to the subject.

I know that I took more than one sick day in Middle School to avoid bullying, I also know the great satisfaction of watching one of them cry like a girl when you do snap and beat the living crap out of them. Its even worse for them when the teacher is right and has seen the bullying and didn't rush to stop me. It sent a message.
 
Who? Cares? What?

The doughnut who runs this web site
http://www.illuminati-r-us.com/Forums/
he is someone who loves to beat up people. Cyberbully. A whole web site devoted to it. And once you tire of him, he spams you for years. He cannot live with himself, I guess. So he defines himself on how he can put other people down.

He is messed up. He claims in an off-hand way to have been a cop. When he was just a security guard. He claims to be some sort of hero but does not have anything to back it up.

When he found out I was part of the Peace Keeping Effort in Lebanon and yet do not go around bragging about it, that really ticked him off, I guess.

By the way, isn't it WAY illegal to claim to be a police officer when you never were one?
 
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By the way, isn't it WAY illegal to claim to be a police officer when you never were one?

That's an interesting question. I know it's illegal to falsely claim that you're a police officer NOW. I've never heard of anyone being prosecuted for claiming to be one in the past.
 
Do you think that humor is a method of fending off the bullies? Seems like internet bullies use the straight foward insults like silly, stupid, pathetic or the world famous "you're an idiot". They never make a light hearted and humorous attempt to degrade; they are blunt, not witty, have no humor and can't understand humor.

Dear Justinian2,

No bully ever used humour in my experience. They may have been amused at the interaction, but there was no attempt at humourous display.

Cpl Ferro
 
That's an interesting question. I know it's illegal to falsely claim that you're a police officer NOW. I've never heard of anyone being prosecuted for claiming to be one in the past.

Is it like the USMC where once a marine, always a marine?
 
Interesting that a Scientologist would start this topic because it is such an integral component of their psy-ops strategy.

I think the latest plenipotentiary termed it this way: when a pit bull is in trouble, he calls a Scientologist.
 
Can someone on the internet really defend themselves against a gang of annonymous posters/bullies?

Can someone on an internet forum really be bullied when he/she has the option to simply ignore posts that he/she finds upsetting, especially considering that all parties know virtually nothing about one another's identities?
 
What do you think of the link to the Characteristics of a bully?
Do you think bullies precipitated any of the 59 School shootings that have happened in the last 15 years?

Would being surrounded by bullies 24-7 make someone snap?
Is humor a sign of someone that is NOT a bully?
Do you think people like Simon Cowell are enablers for bullies?

Please follow the member rules and stick to the subject.
A bully is a person who inflicts pain and humilation on a person because they enjoy it. The victim is perceived to be helpless and most of the time innocent of any wrongdoing.
 

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