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We Invaded the Wrong Country!

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http://news.yahoo.com/fc/World/Iran
VIENNA, Austria - A document obtained by Iran on the nuclear black market serves no other purpose than to make an atomic bomb, the International Atomic Energy Agency said Tuesday.

Bush invades a country that has no WMD program yet Iran is running and clearly is actively seeking to join the Atomic Club. Pisses me off!

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The fact they are blowing off the UN controls and risking sanctions tells me they know they are very close to getting a bomb or bombs and know they aren't going to be able to act in time to stop them.
 
Iran, Iraq, one letter difference, guys in Turbins, same difference.

BTW, whats up with this? Are they glowing already?

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so close! but, as they say, close only counts in horseshoes and handgranades. lots and lots of handgrenades.
 
Bush invades a country that has no WMD program yet Iran is running and clearly is actively seeking to join the Atomic Club.

Don't forget that some of the 9/11 hijackers went through Iran (for what that's worth). And that Iran is actually, you know, an Islamic theocracy.


The fact they are blowing off the UN controls and risking sanctions tells me they know they are very close to getting a bomb or bombs and know they aren't going to be able to act in time to stop them.

Estimates place them as being years away from obtaining a nuclear weapon. I've heard anywhere from several years to a decade.
 
Don't forget that some of the 9/11 hijackers went through Iran (for what that's worth). And that Iran is actually, you know, an Islamic theocracy.




Estimates place them as being years away from obtaining a nuclear weapon. I've heard anywhere from several years to a decade.

And I've heard a year or two.
 
http://news.yahoo.com/fc/World/Iran


Bush invades a country that has no WMD program yet Iran is running and clearly is actively seeking to join the Atomic Club. Pisses me off!

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They missed North Korea by a great deal further. I suspect they invaded the country they knew could invade. Afghanistan was too small and peripheral to send the message. North Korea and Iran are too problematic. Iraq was just right. The invasion went off fine - the problem has been in the follow-through.
 
Instead of estimated years for Iran to develop an atomic bomb (i.e, one that explodes). Any guesses on how many minutes it would take Iran to develop and deploy (missle warhead) a "dirty bomb".
 
as they say

"close doesn't count except in horsehoes and handgrenades..." and atomic bombs!

  • The IAEA also confirmed that Iran had begun preparing for nuclear enrichment.
    "Substantial renovation of the gas handling system is underway at the Pilot Fuel Enrichment Plant (PFEP) at Natanz," the report said.

There will be a lightning-invasion all right, but not by the USA.

Israeli Defense Forces are going to take care of this all by themselves.
They have been training for it, they have the motivation to do it, they have the reason to do it (especially with Iran backing HAMAS), and they have the bA||s to do it.

There are several indications that Israel intends to make the raids on or before March 20th. Acting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert would like nothing better than to be seen as acting super-tough on Iranian state-sponsored terrorism, right before the Israel elections, and wrap himself and his party (Kadima) in the glory of such a mission. If he pulls it off, and destroys Natanz and other nuke sites, it might actually be the first time in Israeli politics that the public provides enough votes to a single party to allow it to rule with a Parliamentary majority without needing to really haggle for a coalition bloc.

Here we go...
 
webfusion said:

Is this symbolic logic? Do you mean "balls"? Funny way of saying it.:D


There are several indications that Israel intends to make the raids on or before March 20th. Acting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert would like nothing better than to be seen as acting super-tough on Iranian state-sponsored terrorism, right before the Israel elections, and wrap himself and his party (Kadima) in the glory of such a mission. If he pulls it off, and destroys Natanz and other nuke sites, it might actually be the first time in Israeli politics that the public provides enough votes to a single party to allow it to rule with a Parliamentary majority without needing to really haggle for a coalition bloc.

Here we go...

It would seem to me to be an opportune time, while the western powers are all running around scheduling crap at the UN. What are your sources? DEBKA?
 
Here we go...
Dream on.

Kadima still looks good to go. Why stir the stew when the meat's in your portion? Consider all the things that could go wrong - and let's not forget this would be a raid, not an invasion. Planes might be lost. Bombs might go astray and kill innocent folk. Targets might not be destroyed. Iran might triumphantly reveal the existence of other sites, not targeted. And then there's the US reaction. I doubt they would clear Israel to act, and if Israel acts without US clearance they risk getting targeted by a significant military force. Let alone the political and diplomatic repurcussions vis-a-vis the US, which has a major presence between Israel and Iran, and troubles enough. Unless the Israelis think they have the US in the cricket position (aka by the balls) they ain't gonna try it.
 
Dream on.

Kadima still looks good to go. Why stir the stew when the meat's in your portion? Consider all the things that could go wrong - and let's not forget this would be a raid, not an invasion. Planes might be lost. Bombs might go astray and kill innocent folk. Targets might not be destroyed. Iran might triumphantly reveal the existence of other sites, not targeted. And then there's the US reaction. I doubt they would clear Israel to act, and if Israel acts without US clearance they risk getting targeted by a significant military force. Let alone the political and diplomatic repurcussions vis-a-vis the US, which has a major presence between Israel and Iran, and troubles enough. Unless the Israelis think they have the US in the cricket position (aka by the balls) they ain't gonna try it.

Then again, it is better to ask for absolution than permission.

If I were back in Isreal, with my old IDF brigade, I would be thinking that I trusted the EU as far as I could spit.
 
I dunno, I don't think it's got to the "put it all on 27 Black" moment.

Interestingly, 27 is Red, not Black.

Were you being subtle again on us?:D

I would make the most of this minor gaffe and explain how "27 Black" is a metaphore for .... something clever.
 
http://news.yahoo.com/fc/World/Iran


Bush invades a country that has no WMD program yet Iran is running and clearly is actively seeking to join the Atomic Club. Pisses me off!

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Good grief, yet another thread where someone picks one of the many reasons laid out for the Iraq war by the Congress, acts as if it were the only one and then proceeds to say "then why didn't/can't we invade (insert country of the day here) instead/also"...

It's anybody's guess where this one will end up. :boggled:
 
Then again, it is better to ask for absolution than permission.
You think? The US will be implicated in the attack, and quite rightly so - they can hardly claim not to have noticed the raid happen. The US is present right next door to Iran, and already have enough problems to contend with. Israel as a cat's-paw of US imperialism will gain credibility amongst Muslims - a few Hail Mary's won't atone for that. There's a limit to US commitment to Israel, AIPAC notwithstanding. Unless the tail really does wag the dog, Israel needs to take care.

Fundie Christians might see such a raid as the prelude to Armageddon, and demand that the US Forces get out of the way. I can't see an Iraqi government protecting Israel by denying transit rights to the Iranians. They might even join in, and Syria will be salivating.

If I were back in Isreal, with my old IDF brigade, I would be thinking that I trusted the EU as far as I could spit.
I can't see the Brits invading Palestine again, they've been very forgiving of the murdering zionist terrorist bastards who created Israel. France, admittedly, has the least-zionist large Jewish population in the world, but they're fully-committed in Syria and Lebanon. The Germans are wracked by contrition; the Austrians, on the other hand, I will never trust, but neither does anybody else. Poles ditto, and no influence anyway. The Mediterranean members don't have much pull either. So, all in all, I wouldn't worry too much about being stabbed-in-the-back by the EU.

Turkey and Egypt are another matter.
 
Good grief, yet another thread where someone picks one of the many reasons laid out for the Iraq war by the Congress ...
Leaving aside the subject of what most 'Murricans thought they were going to war for, which of the reasons have proved valid (I would trawl through the Joint Resolution just as most 'Murricans haven't if I could be arsed, but I can't).
 

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