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Waterboarding "just tip of Iceberg"

quixotecoyote said:
You wish. Torture isn't that powerful an issue.
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Well, if I got a cent for every time I heard Enhanced interrogation techniques or waterboarding, which of course aren't even torture, but obviously powerful issues by itself for some reason, ...
 
Oliver said:
There is no written version of this CNN-Report yet, but even if we heard of all the torture methods beyond waterboarding in the past in occasional reports, a full scale discussion about all those other methods didn't emerge yet. If it does, it might be the final blow to the GOP:

http://us.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2009/05/20/am.acosta.torture.allegations.cnn
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As much as I dislike the GOP, and as much as I am on the human-rights side of the torture issue, I don't think further revelations of torture by the US will bring down the GOP.
 
Oliver said:
There is no written version of this CNN-Report yet, but even if we heard of all the torture methods beyond waterboarding in the past in occasional reports, a full scale discussion about all those other methods didn't emerge yet. If it does, it might be the final blow to the GOP:

http://us.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2009/05/20/am.acosta.torture.allegations.cnn
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The attorney for Binyam Mohamed, Lt.Col, Yvonne Bradley is a Republican.

Binyam Mohamed was tortured with agents from the British MI5 in attendance. Will this be the end of MI5 as well?


"Police launch investigation of MI5 over torture claims"

"They took the scalpel to my right chest. It was only a small cut. Then they cut my left chest. One of them took my penis in his hand and began to make cuts. He did it once, and they stood still for maybe a minute, watching my reaction."

"I was trying desperately to suppress myself, but I was screaming. Marwan seemed to smoke half a cigarette and start another. They must have done this 20 to 30 times in maybe two hours. There was blood all over. They cut all over my private parts. One of them said it would be better just to cut it off, as I would only breed terrorists."

"Even after this treatment, papers disclosed to him for a US court case show that MI5 was colluding with his torturers. In late September 2002, one document reveals: "The Service received a report from the US of an interview of Mr Mohamed." On 30 September 2002, MI5 held a case conference about him with their US colleagues in London."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...l-1655352.html
 
Waterboarding people on an iceberg is just not nice - those things are ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ cold.
 
Oliver said:
Well, if I got a cent for every time I heard Enhanced interrogation techniques or waterboarding, which of course aren't even torture, but obviously powerful issues by itself for some reason, ...
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John McCaine, who was waterboarded, and not for a demonstration, says it's torture.

What do you know that he doesn't? And yes, we know there are worse things; that's not the point.
 
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