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Chris H

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A recent SWIFT post by Jeff Wagg, and the 'What Do I Do Next?' PDF released by the Skeptics Society a couple of months back have inspired me to become a bit more of an active skeptic. As a result, I'm in the process of developing a series of websites that provide critical analysis of the claims made by the most high profile psychics in the industry. Based on a similar concept to Robert Lancaster's 'Stop Sylvia Browne' site, but targeting different, and multiple individuals. Whilst I hope that the sites will be useful to those within the skeptical community, the target audience is the supporters of the alleged psychics, and those who are unsure where they stand on the issue. I am launching these sites in an (albeit small) effort to "even out" the quality of the content that is available online regarding the claims made by these psychics.

My goal is to have each site listed on the first page of a Google search. Ideally, I would like to have each site returned as one of the top three results, alongside the performers official site and their Wikipedia entry. The sites I have already begun work on are;

  • John Edward
  • Allison Dubois
  • Peter Popoff
  • Scott Russell Hill

In addition, I already have plans underway for sites "dedicated" to other individuals, such as;

  • Benny Hinn
  • John Of God
  • Derek Acorah
  • James Van Praagh
  • Rosemary Altea

(I considered a Uri Geller page as well, but I think he's become so irrelevant these days that he's not worth wasting the time and/or money on).

I may consider adding more people to the series in the future, and would be interested to hear about any other individuals whom you think would make good targets.

Each site will contain profile information, details of the individual and their claims about scientific testing (in addition to their response to the JREF MDC), resources for learning more about topics such as cold reading and critical thinking, a PDF brochure (that can be printed out and distributed by anyone around the world who is dedicated enough to stand outside a theatre in the evening and hand them out to exiting patrons), and other articles that I plan to write over time.

Whilst I certainly have my own opinions about whether the performers mentioned can do the things they claim to do, it is not the intention of my site/s to pass judgment. Rather, I intend to present as much evidence as possible, and allow the visitor to make up their own mind about what they think.

I have already come up with quite a diplomatic brand name for the sites, however I'm reluctant to reveal it until the launch, for fear of it being stolen by the likes of the scumbag who stole the stopsylviabrowne.com domain. For now I'll just refer to it as xxx.com (although I believe that one is already taken ;) ). Having said that, my name has already been taken if I decide to go with the single domain name option explained below.

The main purpose of this post is to ask those who are a bit more web savvy than myself what would be the best way to go about hosting/addressing my site.

I am unsure as to the best way to go about hosting the site. It would be nice to have a domain name for each site, such as xxxjohnedward.com, but this will obviously increase the cost drastically, as it would require me to have a hosting account that can host multiple sites, plus the additional cost of potentially a dozen or so domain names. However this site is targeted at a non-skeptical audience, and I want each site to come up under a search for the individual psychic. If I were to host one site, and then have sub folders for each (such as xxx.com/johnedward or xxx.com/peterpopoff), is it possible to configure Google (and other search engines) to show each "sub-site" as an individual site?

There are certainly benefits to the single umbrella site option, such as having one unique "brand name" with the ability to add newcomers to my brand without worrying about someone else stealing the domain before I get the chance, and of course only one once a year payment for one domain and one hosting account.

If you've got any advice that might help get me started, I'm very keen to hear it.

Cheers,

Chris
 
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Internet.There is no such thing as the interweb.This was pointed out to you in a previous thread.
 
Internet.There is no such thing as the interweb.This was pointed out to you in a previous thread.


I didn't see the other thread, and I apologize if a light-hearted joke caused offense.

See number 3 and 4 here for the definition.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=interweb

A quick search of the term will show you that it is used rather frequently on this very forum. However to rectify what is obviously a massive issue, I've changed the name of this thread for you. Enjoy.

Cheers,

Chris
 
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If I were to host one site, and then have sub folders for each (such as xxx.com/johnedward or xxx.com/peterpopoff), is it possible to configure Google (and other search engines) to show each "sub-site" as an individual site?

Google doesn't really look at "sites" per se for returning results, rather it looks at pages, so it won't make a dramatic difference if they're all on one site, and indeed it may help.

While googles algorithms keep changing and are somewhat secret, the advantage of being on one site is that the domain itself can gather "reputation" as more folk link to it, which can help slightly with rankings of the pages below.

Multiple domains may have a slight benefit if the domain name itself includes the subject you're wanting to rank highly on. Additional benefit may come if you have the different domains hosted in different places, so that any links between them might be considered as a reputation "vote" by google.

Really though, the most important thing is good content, that's configured well for google and, most importantly, attracts attention from other sites.

Unless you intend spending a fortune with SEO experts trying to "trick" google into giving you the best rankings, go with the one site and focus on it.
 
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I am unsure as to the best way to go about hosting the site. It would be nice to have a domain name for each site, such as xxxjohnedward.com, but this will obviously increase the cost drastically, as it would require me to have a hosting account that can host multiple sites, plus the additional cost of potentially a dozen or so domain names.
These are only ballpark figures, but I'm trying to figure out what you consider "expensive."
  • Domain Name Registration, around USD $10 per domain/year.
  • Want to keep your registration information (your home address if used private?), add about USD $20 per domain/one-time cost.
Note: Depending on which host you go with, it may take some time before your actual registration (ie: home address and phone number) go "private," so they can't be viewed if a domain name registration search is done. So you might need to register the Domain Name(s) and pay the additional privacy fee a couple weeks before you announce your Web site name(s).

Consider if it's important or not to register domains as DomainName.com, DomainName.net, DomainName.org, etc. Is it really that important to register to safeguard all suffix variations?

If you think the cost of registering a domain name is expensive, consider this:
You might need to spend USD $1,500-$5,000 as a retainer for a law firm after you sign an engagement letter.

I mentioned a "firm," because since you will most likely include copyrighted material on your Web site, you need to be familiar with Fair Use. And, even if you include something under Fair Use, or other "allowable" items under copyright law, it could "paint someone in a negative light," which means they might try to bring suit because you made them look bad; whether what you said is true, partially true, or not true. So if you have an attorney who specializes in just copyright law, they might have to talk to another attorney in their firm who is familiar with issues like defamation and libel.

I understand there are some attorneys on the JREF Forum, and perhaps they can offer more guidance. But be careful, because someone recently started a thread asking if it was "legal" to post an e-mail that was sent to them, and all the replies were not from practicing attorneys. And well... someone, who to my knowledge is/was not an attorney, gave some wrong advice. I think that person wanted to be helpful, and their response sounded authoritative and accurate- but the fact was they gave wrong information. I can't find the thread, I think it was removed.

This could work well, as it is flexible to grow. It would save you money because you don't have to register different Domain Names. But you need to decide which format, individual Web sites, or one "umbrella" Web site, work best for you.
There are certainly benefits to the single umbrella site option, such as having one unique "brand name" with the ability to add newcomers to my brand without worrying about someone else stealing the domain before I get the chance, and of course only one once a year payment for one domain and one hosting account.
 
You're in Melbourne, huh? Me too.

I run a web hosting business. PM me and let's work something out. I might be able to offer free hosting, and advice.
 
A recent SWIFT post by Jeff Wagg, and the 'What Do I Do Next?' PDF released by the Skeptics Society a couple of months back have inspired me to become a bit more of an active skeptic. As a result, I'm in the process of developing a series of websites that provide critical analysis of the claims made by the most high profile psychics in the industry. Based on a similar concept to Robert Lancaster's 'Stop Sylvia Browne' site, but targeting different, and multiple individuals. Whilst I hope that the sites will be useful to those within the skeptical community, the target audience is the supporters of the alleged psychics, and those who are unsure where they stand on the issue. I am launching these sites in an (albeit small) effort to "even out" the quality of the content that is available online regarding the claims made by these psychics.

My goal is to have each site listed on the first page of a Google search. Ideally, I would like to have each site returned as one of the top three results, alongside the performers official site and their Wikipedia entry. The sites I have already begun work on are;

  • John Edward
  • Allison Dubois
  • Peter Popoff
  • Scott Russell Hill

In addition, I already have plans underway for sites "dedicated" to other individuals, such as;

  • Benny Hinn
  • John Of God
  • Derek Acorah
  • James Van Praagh
  • Rosemary Altea

(I considered a Uri Geller page as well, but I think he's become so irrelevant these days that he's not worth wasting the time and/or money on).

I may consider adding more people to the series in the future, and would be interested to hear about any other individuals whom you think would make good targets.

Each site will contain profile information, details of the individual and their claims about scientific testing (in addition to their response to the JREF MDC), resources for learning more about topics such as cold reading and critical thinking, a PDF brochure (that can be printed out and distributed by anyone around the world who is dedicated enough to stand outside a theatre in the evening and hand them out to exiting patrons), and other articles that I plan to write over time.

Whilst I certainly have my own opinions about whether the performers mentioned can do the things they claim to do, it is not the intention of my site/s to pass judgment. Rather, I intend to present as much evidence as possible, and allow the visitor to make up their own mind about what they think.

I have already come up with quite a diplomatic brand name for the sites, however I'm reluctant to reveal it until the launch, for fear of it being stolen by the likes of the scumbag who stole the stopsylviabrowne.com domain. For now I'll just refer to it as xxx.com (although I believe that one is already taken ;) ). Having said that, my name has already been taken if I decide to go with the single domain name option explained below.

The main purpose of this post is to ask those who are a bit more web savvy than myself what would be the best way to go about hosting/addressing my site.

I am unsure as to the best way to go about hosting the site. It would be nice to have a domain name for each site, such as xxxjohnedward.com, but this will obviously increase the cost drastically, as it would require me to have a hosting account that can host multiple sites, plus the additional cost of potentially a dozen or so domain names. However this site is targeted at a non-skeptical audience, and I want each site to come up under a search for the individual psychic. If I were to host one site, and then have sub folders for each (such as xxx.com/johnedward or xxx.com/peterpopoff), is it possible to configure Google (and other search engines) to show each "sub-site" as an individual site?

There are certainly benefits to the single umbrella site option, such as having one unique "brand name" with the ability to add newcomers to my brand without worrying about someone else stealing the domain before I get the chance, and of course only one once a year payment for one domain and one hosting account.

If you've got any advice that might help get me started, I'm very keen to hear it.

Cheers,

Chris

I don't want to sound negative, but the way to get a page consistently in the top of Google rankings for a search term is to make it so good that everybody links to it.

The reason RSL's site had high ranking was because he did so much to keep it current. This is the only viable plan.

My suggestion is that if you want to get engaged in getting higher rankings for skeptical information, maybe foster a group of subject matter experts to constantly edit the existing skepticwiki or even the wikipedia pages for these topics.

If you keep them current, they'll get more inbound links and gravitate higher in the rankings naturally.
 
Well I would suggest spending your time and money on something that might actually produce something. Like maybe needlepoint or coin collecting.
If RSLs stopsylvia.com has done anything it has shown what a hugh waste of time websites against well known psychics can be.
I'm not knocking RSL at all. He is a very intelligent man with a sense of balance and fair play rare on the internet.
His stopkaz.com was a complete success unlike anything before it.
But unfortunately RSL believed he could achieve the same sort of thing against an already well known psychic.
There have been a hand full of people who after reading stopsylvia changed their minds about her. Some of those people still post on this forum.
Although they no longer believe Sylvia is a psychic or prophet of God, they still believe that someone somewhere out in the world is.
Hardly a true change of any kind in my opinion.
Not to mention that for every person that is drawn away from Sylvia via stopsylvia.com there are 20 new believers ready to take their place via her TV appearances.
Sylvia Browne's believers will pay a year in advance for a 15 minute phone call from her just to ask her the question will I meet Mr/Miss right.
How in the world can a website hope to compete with that kind of stupidity?
So do yourself a favor and spend that time and effort on learning a new language or something.
 
Good luck with this! Once you have something up, at least for John Edward, let me know. I may have access to some inside info...
 
While I’m with you 110% you should talk with someone who knows how to protect against lawsuits before talking to someone who knows about Google ranking and web searches.
But it would be sweat to have a Benny Hine is a fraud web page pop up on google.
 

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