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Vikings in the middle ages

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From this week's commentry.

Mr. Derek Acorah [the "medium"] was shown a skull that had been found in an old pub, with a hole in the top of it. He then went into a frenzied routine, explaining how a girl from the Middle Ages had been murdered with a metal spike, and proceeded to recreate her death through the medium of dance. A little caption then popped up at the bottom of the screen saying that the skull had been carbon-dated, and was found to date back to Viking times.

Talk about losing all respect for a man in one second…

Huh? Can anyone tell me what Randi's point is?

The Middle Ages 5th to 15th Century AD.

The Viking Times 8th - 11th Century AD.

I think it's pretty safe to say that all Vikings lived in the Middle Ages.

Does anyone know what he's on about?
 
I thought that was odd as well. They seemed like the same period in history to me.

*shrug*


Randi needs to learn to use the internet as he writes.

Often... OFTEN I check a website while writing to make sure I don't come off as stupider than I really am (difficult to do).
 
I do, too. It's resulted in the hasty editing of some posts here, when I didn't check my facts before posting.
This is a tough crowd.
 
I see there'll be another Most Haunted report from Jez Wood next week. I hope its better than the last one.

I am writing to you about a program which is shown over here entitled "Most Haunted." It's hosted by a lady whose name is Yvette Fielding. The executive producer is of the same name, and there is also a camera assistant who's name is Rick Fielding. All a coincidence I'm sure, but nonetheless interesting.
She is the producer and presenter. So? I dont know who Rick is - maybe he is a relative but he's not her husband (if that is what is infered) as that is Karl Beattie.

To put it briefly, the TV team travel to various locations across our land and attempt to communicate with the spirits via Mr. Acorah, who is ably assisted by his spirit guide "Sam." I assume that Sam is a Red Indian, though it has, to the best of my knowledge, never been confirmed.
It only takes a couple of minutes to find Sam's Homepage

I was told that it was not possible for a member of the public to do such a thing, as it contravenes Health and Safety issues. Okay, I'm no expert on this so I guess I must take it on the chin.
Im not expert either but I would have thought Jez could have pressed this a bit more. What health and safety issues? Why not ask them if you can sign a waver? Surely if it's a hazardous job they have something that thier guest 'experts' sign.

The closest we got to a "ghost" was when a spoon was thrown over the shoulders of Acorah and Fielding, in a bedroom of a "haunted inn." An elderly lady who worked there explained that these spoons were tied down (?) in the adjacent room, and "could not have possibly been removed." Stop.
They were not tied down, obviously. And on that point, why would anyone wish to tie down a spoon? Put it in a drawer, locked if you wish, or is that too simple?
Yes. They were tied down. The table was set as a display, presumably the spoon was tied down to stop it getting stolen. Obviously the lady is wrong in thinking that having it tied down is the same as having it glued and nailed as, funnily enough, the spoon got away. The point of fact that if a ghost can untie a bit of string then surely a crew member can also is lost due to the emphasis being made on 'was the spoon tied down or not?'

May I just point out here, that although the room was in pitch darkness, you did see a flash as the spoon rocketed past the team, picking up what little light there was from the night vision equipment, which partially illuminated Acorah and Fielding. You didn't see from where it came. However, Acorah announced as it hit the wall some ten feet away, that it "is just a spoon." I take it Sam whispered this information to him due to the lack of light.
Ah well you see, the room was not in pitch darkness. Derek and 'Brave' Yvette were at the front of the team with thier backs to the camera. The room was dark, yes, but they weren't feeling theyre way along the walls, just walking slowly and carefully (almost as if they expected something to happen..hmm). Thier eyes would have been accustomed to the levels by then. The infrared cameras are used all the time not becuase it is too dark to see otherwise but because without them they wont catch any 'orbs'. So even if Derek wasnt in on it (doubtful) he could have seen the spoon lying on the floor ahead.

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in addition:
Its always funny when the orbs turn up as the voice over says that "they are called orbs because of thier shape" and yet they are never round but often look like tiny bits of hair caught in the infrared lights.

I actually cant bring myself to watch this program anymore so I just get the odd bits told to me like when Derek got posessed by a monkey and when he (sorry..the ghost in him) told Yvette to get her breasts out.

Come forward Derek..! Come forward!
 
Peter Morris said:
From this week's commentry.



Huh? Can anyone tell me what Randi's point is?

The Middle Ages 5th to 15th Century AD.

The Viking Times 8th - 11th Century AD.

I think it's pretty safe to say that all Vikings lived in the Middle Ages.

Does anyone know what he's on about?

Well, I would say that he just got his facts wrong there. But he can afford it.

Maybe he thought about the scandinavian historic timescale, where the viking ages actually commes before the middle ages.
 
Peter Morris said:
From this week's commentry.
Mr. Derek Acorah [the "medium"] was shown a skull that had been found in an old pub, with a hole in the top of it. (...) A little caption then popped up at the bottom of the screen saying that the skull had been carbon-dated, and was found to date back to Viking times.
The Middle Ages 5th to 15th Century AD.
The Viking Times 8th - 11th Century AD.
I think it's pretty safe to say that all Vikings lived in the Middle Ages. (...)

Skulls? Old pubs? Vikings? Smorgasbord?
SKÅL!!!
 
Yep, looks like Mr Randi was wrong, and I'd have made the same mistake. I was under the (incorrect) impression that the classification (at least as it is applied to UK history) went something like....

43BC - 400ish AD Roman times
400ish AD - 1066 AD Dark Ages
1066AD - 1550ish AD Middle Ages

From looking at a few online sources dark ages seems to have been expunged from the record on the grounds that it infers that nothing good happened at all during this time.

Maybe Mr Randi is just a little behind the times (or ages)
 

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