Unreleased wtc7 photos withheld by "they"

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I heard a rather strange claim today on a local skeptics network.

The claim is that "they", the gubmint I suspect, have incriminating photos of wtc7 on 9/11, that supposedly are withheld from the public. The photos were however available for Popular Mechanics on their famous story.

Sorry if this has been posted before, but I googled this claim, I used the search function on this forum, I checked Gravy's sites, but nothing. Probably because it is a moot point.

I think the point was raised in the debate between Mark Roberts and some troofers on youtube I saw ages ago, but I can't seem to find it anywhere.

Any thoughts?
 
They're referring to this:

In a recent Charles Goyette interview of Popular Mechanics senior research editor, Davin Coburn it was revealed the NY City and state officials allowed Popular Mechanics to view pictures that were censored from the public. When a simple magazine has access to secret pictures questions must be raised.
http://www.striketheroot.org/node/20
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Sorry, he had no link. He's sort of an r-tard. I tried to google it, nothing. The case is, I think the claim might be right, but that there is a rational nonCT explanation to it.
 
Does it matter if the pictures are public or not?! They will still claim inside job no matter how much is released.

Their goal is to see Bush, the whole CIA, NIST, Mossad and so on hang, not seeking the truth.
 
eirik said:
Sorry, he had no link. He's sort of an r-tard. I tried to google it, nothing. The case is, I think the claim might be right, but that there is a rational nonCT explanation to it.
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Probably show human remains.
 
Sounds an awful lot like an offshoot of "where's all the video of the Pentagon that the FBI confiscated?" or "why won't they release the video from the 85 cameras at the Pentagon?" or something like that... inventing a conspiracy where there may not even be one. "They're hiding something" isn't an easy one to debunk, and the truther doesn't have to prove it because, of course, the proof is being hidden.
 
UNLoVedRebel said:
In WTC 7? No one died there.
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No but there is a fair chance that the photos being talked about were taken from a distance so human remains in the forground is a posibility.
 
Thanks for the link, MikeW:)

I know, it is a small point. Now, the letter is dated 9/2 2006. Surely they must have gotten a response by NYC by now? Nothing is published online AFAIK. (but my googling skills is still humiliated by MikeWs linky:)) Why wouldn't the troofers publish the respons? Because then they can't continue whining and complaining, and JAQ off at the JREF and other skeptic forums.

That was my response to this crackpot, by the way, when he kept derailing asking me about the pictures. Why don't you ask THEM why you can't see their pictures? No, off course, you ask an anonymous skeptic on teh internet. Again. And again.

My guess is that the city responded with a mundane, rational, unexciting explanation. That's probably why it's not a big issue with any truthers anymore, except for the ones browsing through heaps og old troofer-youtube-vids.

It's all about the thermite now..
 
So the government was able to allow the photos suitable for the public to be released but managed to catch every single photo exposing the grand conspiracy and confiscate it? How exactly did they manage to do that? The ridiculousness is beyond comprehension.
 
According to a 911blogger story, around 50% of the rights holders of items from NISTs multimedia archive didn't want their work released. Truthers could have the rest, presumably at a cost of around $10,000. Which isn't as expensive as it sounds: half the full archive of "6,899 photographs and over 300 hours of video" is surely going to take considerable time & effort to reproduce. Depending how it's currently stored, I guess.

Anyway, good value or not, $10,000 isn't a lot of money. What's Griffin made from 9/11 "truth"? Dylan Avery? Alex Jones? Surely this is pocket change to at least some of the AE911truth supporters, the celebs like Rosie, Sunjata, Asner. Stop whining, and do something.
 
Quad4_72 said:
So the government was able to allow the photos suitable for the public to be released but managed to catch every single photo exposing the grand conspiracy and confiscate it? How exactly did they manage to do that? The ridiculousness is beyond comprehension.
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And THEN they show it to PM...
 
MikeW said:
According to a 911blogger story, around 50% of the rights holders of items from NISTs multimedia archive didn't want their work released. Truthers could have the rest, presumably at a cost of around $10,000. Which isn't as expensive as it sounds: half the full archive of "6,899 photographs and over 300 hours of video" is surely going to take considerable time & effort to reproduce. Depending how it's currently stored, I guess.

Anyway, good value or not, $10,000 isn't a lot of money. What's Griffin made from 9/11 "truth"? Dylan Avery? Alex Jones? Surely this is pocket change to at least some of the AE911truth supporters, the celebs like Rosie, Sunjata, Asner. Stop whining, and do something.
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OK. So it's also a matter of intellectual property law. I see. The truth is so boring...:)

BTW, I read $20, 000. Did I miss something?
 
MikeW raised an interesting point about the cost of transcripts and copies of photographs. I can see how it is feasible to allow persons with established press credentials to view materials in person. Maybe if the twoofers could get a reputable journalist to request that sort of access, he might be able to identify photos of which he would like to have copies, and could pay for those.

It is unlikely that they would find anything more useful, though, that was not copyrighted material available from other sources, for a price.

And NO, Alex Jones and Paul Joseph Watson are not credentialed journalists.
 
Even if truthers had every single photo, video, and audio, they would still F it up.
 
Quad4_72 said:
So the government was able to allow the photos suitable for the public to be released but managed to catch every single photo exposing the grand conspiracy and confiscate it? How exactly did they manage to do that? The ridiculousness is beyond comprehension.
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eirik said:
And THEN they show it to PM...
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BINGO,

Sooo, the theory goes that in order to make sure that PM published a story backing the 'official story' THEY showed the writers of the article the photos that contradict the 'official story'.

Sure that makes perfect sense,,, to a truther.

Christopher 7 often crowed on about how much money NIST wanted in order to see all the photos. I told him that if he got $10 from 10% of the people that the TM says it has on its side they could buy the photos easily.

Heck I bet that if one simply asked members of the TM who are in professions that typically earn a good amount of money, say lawyers, architects, engineers and pilots to donate $100 you could get those photos even quicker.
 
eirik said:
OK. So it's also a matter of intellectual property law. I see. The truth is so boring...:)

BTW, I read $20, 000. Did I miss something?
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If you check the 911blogger comments, the original poster says he'd probably only be able to get around half the archive because about 50% of the rights-holders didn't want their images/ videos released. So I guess the final bill will drop by about the same.
 
Wolrab said:
Even if truthers had every single photo, video, and audio, they would still F it up.
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Further to that, can anyone give an instance where a truther either acknowledged that they'd misinterpreted a photo or where they changed their stance upon being shown photographic evidence?
 
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