Unitarianism and Pascal's wager

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Brothers and Sisters,

As many of you know, I have recently become a member of the Unitarian Universalists Church here in St. Louis. In talking about it here on these boards, I've discovered that I have a knack for Unitarianism Evangelism. Without consciously trying, I've convinced at least three of our fellow posters to give Unitarianism a chance. I've decided to embrace my calling and evangelize.

For those of you who are unfamiliar with Unitarian Universalism, I would summarize the UU position as this: All religions are basically valid but describe only an aspect of the whole story. UU's have no creedal requirements and don't even require that you have faith in God. (That is, "God" in whatever sense you care to define the word.)

To start my ministry, I performed the sacred Unitarian prayer/meditation which is commonly known in the vernacular as “daydreaming”. And lo! In my prayer/meditation, I was struck with the inspiration of a Universal(ist) Truth! And that Truth is this:

Unitarianism is the ultimate answer to Pascal’s Wager!

As many of you know, Pascal’s Wager goes something like this: We don’t know for sure whether God exists or not, therefore there are four possibilities. (1) If God exists and we don’t have faith in God, we’re frelled. (2) If God exists and we do have faith in God, we’re saved. (3) If God doesn’t exist and we don’t have faith in God, it doesn’t matter. (4) If God doesn’t exist and we have faith in God, no harm done. The safest option, it is argued, is to have faith in God which guarantees no bad consequences.

It’s pretty sound logic until you account for the fact that there is more than one religion with more than one God. Even if you have faith in God there is still a chance of being frelled if it turns out that we have faith in the wrong God.

So, what is the answer? That’s right! Unitarianism! Assuming you ignore that tiny little thing where they don’t require you to have faith in God.

That’s right, Unitarianism. Unitarianism believes that all religions are basically valid so when Unitarians have faith in God, they basically have faith in the “one God(s)” that all Gods really represent.

“But wait,” I hear you say, “you can’t be faithful to all Gods. Almost every religion has restrictions to the effect of ‘You shall have no other god before [our God]’.” That’s true and a good point, however, this phrase is often seen as a commandment when it is really a statement of fact. See, from the Unitarian perspective, God isn’t requesting that we not worship other Gods. Instead, God is tell us that we don’t have the option. When we worship “another” God, we’re still worshiping the same overall God, just a different aspect of Him/Her/It/Them.

So, you see, Unitarianism is the one sure fire way to avoid getting frelled for all eternity. Unless, of course, that is your idea of Heaven, then I’m sure we can arrange something for you.

You can join the Unitarian Universalists at a UU Church near you. You just may be frelled if you don’t.

Brother Upchurch
 
I would argue that possibility (4) is not necessarily "no harm done".

If there is no God, or not quite equivalently, if there is no afterlife, then the time spent in useless submission, as a percentage of the short time we have, becomes very great.

Wow, that was just too many commas in one sentence.
 
phildonnia said:
If there is no God, or not quite equivalently, if there is no afterlife, then the time spent in useless submission, as a percentage of the short time we have, becomes very great.
You're focusing too much on the negative. Just think of all those great times you had sitting around the camp fire, eating s'mores and singing "Kumbya". Was that time such a waste after all?
 
Upchurch said:
Caution: This thread is presented in Tongue-In-Cheek Vision (tm). The views presented here are not necessarily those of its author. People on medication or those lacking a sense of irony are advised to avoid this thread.
Brother Upchurch

Cute!!!!

I am really enjoying visiting my local UU fellowship. It's more like a club. It's great for me to meet others in this area.....the bible belt...who are not fundamental christians. In fact, most are Democrats!!!:eek:
 
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Ruby said:
Knew you'd like it.

And phildonnia found one of the two counterarguments I forsaw when I wrote it. The other was that this argument doesn't promote searching for Truth (capital "T") but rather promotes sitting on one's laurals and accepting what one is told, which isn't what UU is really all about.
I am really enjoying visiting my local UU fellowship. It's more like a club.
I agree. Or I would, if my weekends weren't filled with wedding planing all the fricken' time. My fiancee and I haven't been in almost a month.
 
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Ruby said:


Cute!!!!

I am really enjoying visiting my local UU fellowship. It's more like a club. It's great for me to meet others in this area.....the bible belt...who are not fundamental christians. In fact, most are Democrats!!!:eek:

That is why I lost interest in UU organization that I used to attend. I found that many, including the minister, were treating it more as a week-end social gathering as opposed to a place of rational learning.
 
Pascal started out by refuting polytheism, Judaism, and Islam (to his own satisfaction, anyway). This left only the choice between Christianity and classical philosophy. Thus the wager.

It's not so silly in historical context given the knowledge available to him.
 
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Upchurch said:
Knew you'd like it.

And phildonnia found one of the two counterarguments I forsaw when I wrote it. The other was that this argument doesn't promote searching for Truth (capital "T") but rather promotes sitting on one's laurals and accepting what one is told, which isn't what UU is really all about.
I agree. Or I would, if my weekends weren't filled with wedding planing all the fricken' time. My fiancee and I haven't been in almost a month.

Oh that's right....you are getting married soon. How exciting!!!!:D

Marriage is great!!!:D
 
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Crossbow said:


That is why I lost interest in UU organization that I used to attend. I found that many, including the minister, were treating it more as a week-end social gathering as opposed to a place of rational learning.

I can understand that. One of the main reasons I went to the UU fellowship was for the social aspect so I am loving it.........but if I had gone just for the rational learning, I might not still be there.
 

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