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Undeclared Eggs in Mayonnaise

No worse than a bag of mixed salted nuts with a "may contain nuts" warning on the side
 
Prester John said:
http://www.fda.gov/oc/po/firmrecalls/thelma09_03.html


Ok i can see the reasoning but a part of me finds it ridiculous.

Not ridiculous at all. For some people food allergies are very serious. My son has a peanut allergy. Fortunately his allergy isn't serious enough to be life threatening, but it is serious enough for my wife and I to be very careful to read the labels of the food we buy. For people with more severe allergies the listings on a food label could be a matter of life or death. Eggs is one of the foods, along with peanuts, shellfish, and strawberries, that commonly cause allergic reactions for some people. Makes perfect sense to me that if a product contains one of these ingredients and isn't properly labeled, then people should be informed.
 
It IS ridiculous.

Mayonnaise is made by mixing eggs and oil (basically). Saying that mayonnaise contains eggs is the same (for me) as saying that pasta salad contains pasta.
 
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jayrev said:


Not ridiculous at all. For some people food allergies are very serious. My son has a peanut allergy. Fortunately his allergy isn't serious enough to be life threatening, but it is serious enough for my wife and I to be very careful to read the labels of the food we buy. For people with more severe allergies the listings on a food label could be a matter of life or death. Eggs is one of the foods, along with peanuts, shellfish, and strawberries, that commonly cause allergic reactions for some people. Makes perfect sense to me that if a product contains one of these ingredients and isn't properly labeled, then people should be informed.

But what do you think mayo is? Eggs and oil, pretty much by definition! If it says mayo, it has to have eggs in it. That's why Miracle Whip is not considered mayo - it doesn't have eggs in it.

I think this is the part that is the problem. It's like saying that peanut butter contains peanuts. Or caviar contains fish eggs.

If you were allergic to fish eggs, would you be concerned that caviar is labeled to indicate that it contains them?
 
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pgwenthold said:


But what do you think mayo is? Eggs and oil, pretty much by definition! If it says mayo, it has to have eggs in it. That's why Miracle Whip is not considered mayo - it doesn't have eggs in it.

I think this is the part that is the problem. It's like saying that peanut butter contains peanuts. Or caviar contains fish eggs.

If you were allergic to fish eggs, would you be concerned that caviar is labeled to indicate that it contains them?
Where did you get the idea that Miracle Whip (salad dressing) doesn't contain eggs? Read the label, as it most certainly does.
 
Pasta and mayo

I think this is a useful (and needed) warning.

Most people don't have ANY idea where their food comes from.

I'm reminded of a student who claimed she was "vegan."
She said that she "didn't eat anything that was once alive."

When i asked her about plants, she said, yep, they were once alive, so she didn't eat them either.

"So if you don't eat animals or plants, what do you eat?"

"Pasta."


Most of my uban kids think milk grows in the cartons. Americans, anyway, are just dumb enough to need labels.
 
This is from a piece at the FDA site called Ingredient Labeling: What's in a Food? .

Mr. Doodle can call his hat whatever he likes. Pasta makers, however, have long had to be very specific about what they call "macaroni." That's because since shortly after the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act was passed in 1938, macaroni, along with some other foods people commonly prepared at home in those days, was exempted from the law's requirement that food manufacturers list their products' ingredients on the food label. Instead, the new act provided for "standards of identity"--prescribed recipes--for these foods, which the manufacturers had to follow.

"The law resulted in standardized recipes for such foods as dairy products, mayonnaise, ketchup, jelly, and orange juice," says Elizabeth Campbell, director of the programs and enforcement policy division in the Office of Food Labeling of FDA's Center for Food Safety and Applied Nutrition. "When a consumer bought a jar of jelly she knew it would have at least 45 percent fruit, as the standard provided, because that's what it takes to make jelly," she explained. "It's roughly half fruit and half sugar. People knew that because they used to make it themselves."

Well, maybe so, but we're in the '90s now, and with the fast pace of today's lifestyles, homemade breads and jellies mostly exist in Grandma's memories. It can hardly be taken for granted that people still know what's in those standardized foods. And yet, more and more, health-conscious consumers and people with dietary restrictions want and need to know what's in the foods they buy.

So, the law is changing to catch up with the times. FDA now requires that ingredients for all standardized foods be listed on the label, the same as for all other foods. This is one of several provisions of a final rule published in the Jan. 6, 1993, Federal Register concerning declaration of ingredients on food labels. (The U.S. Department of Agriculture requires full ingredient labeling on all meat and poultry products, including standardized products, such as chili or sausages.)
It seems to me perfectly sensible to make the "standardized foods" subject to the same requirements as "everything else" with respect to ingredient labeling.

(And yes, I already knew that mayonnaise contained eggs.)


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FISH lay EGGS?

Good heavens, whatever next.

How do they get up the tree?
 
Yeah these days its not always obvious what the ingredients of a food product are, but...... Mayonaise is made of eggs ( or should be)

Just caught my eye

regards

PJ
 
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pgwenthold said:


But what do you think mayo is? Eggs and oil, pretty much by definition! If it says mayo, it has to have eggs in it. That's why Miracle Whip is not considered mayo - it doesn't have eggs in it.

I think this is the part that is the problem. It's like saying that peanut butter contains peanuts. Or caviar contains fish eggs.

If you were allergic to fish eggs, would you be concerned that caviar is labeled to indicate that it contains them?

Yes, I too am aware that mayo contains eggs. I just don't believe that ignorance of that fact should potentially carry a death sentence.
 
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Not all people have the same cultural background. If someone comes from an area where mayonnaise is not eaten, how exactly will he or she know that mayonnaise is made of eggs?

I remember a news story from several years back about a French woman who had bought false morels (I hope that this is the correct English terms) from a Finnish market believing them to be common morels.

The difference is that false morels are deadly poisonous unless they are correctly prepared. In the end the woman and her guests survived after short hospitalization (the error was noticed in time).

Now, it is a common knowledge around here that nobody should eat false morels without preparing them correctly, so there weren't any warning labels.
I think that nowadays warnings have to be present but since I don't eat those mushrooms I've not taking any notice.
 
Do you think that the native Japanese know what mayonaise is? They just received an "American" recipe from that nice lady at the company they work at, and wants to try it out to be polite. Opps.

I'd bet that a lot of people don't know mayo has eggs in it. I can state for a fact that before I made my own mayo I didn't know what was in it.
 
Huh. Never thought about what Mayo is made of. Put me in the "ignorant" camp on this one, though I'd imagine if I was allergic to eggs I'd have heard about it earlier. :)

Makes Egg salad sort of redundant, I guess (hardboiled eggs + mayo).
 
_Q_ said:

It seems to me perfectly sensible to make the "standardized foods" subject to the same requirements as "everything else" with respect to ingredient labeling.

(And yes, I already knew that mayonnaise contained eggs.)


_Q_

Yes, and labeling laws continue to get stricter here for both foods and cosmetics.
 
roger said:
Do you think that the native Japanese know what mayonaise is? They just received an "American" recipe from that nice lady at the company they work at, and wants to try it out to be polite. Opps.


yes, the Japanese know what mayo is. it is extremely popular there, and they put it on everything now adays. kewpie mayonnaise, a japanese mayo, is an extremely popular brand. here is an article about the japanese and mayonnaise.
 

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