U.S. Supreme Court Has Its Own Ten Commandments

[billiefan2000]

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2003/8/21/95743.shtml

 

[Suddenly]

Goody!! Newsmax!! I need a good laugh.

This is comic:

Also, directly over Rehnquist's head when he sits on the bench is a depiction of two tablets, rounded on the top and flat on the bottom. They contain the Roman numerals I through X.

Curators claim the tablets represent the Bill of Rights.

But, UPI says, "the tablets look awfully similar to what Charlton Heston might carry in a movie."

Too bad our educational system can't help people distinguish movies from reality. I think this is basis for banning that movie. It clearly is warping peoples minds.

 

[hgc]

Goody!! Newsmax!! I need a good laugh.

This is comic:

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Also, directly over Rehnquist's head when he sits on the bench is a depiction of two tablets, rounded on the top and flat on the bottom. They contain the Roman numerals I through X.

Curators claim the tablets represent the Bill of Rights.

But, UPI says, "the tablets look awfully similar to what Charlton Heston might carry in a movie."
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Too bad our educational system can't help people distinguish movies from reality. I think this is basis for banning that movie. It clearly is warping peoples minds.

I like that newsmax relies on Moonie oganization UPI, just as it does that other venerable Moonie front, The Washington Times.

 

[ceo_esq]

What's the point here, Billiefan? I used to work in a building (USDOJ) that had Moses depicted as a lawgiver too. There are constitutional ways to present the Ten Commandments in public, and then there are unconstitutional ways. Guess which one is apparently the prevailing fashion in Alabama and which is the fashion in D.C.

 

[billiefan2000]

ceo-esq

According to the God hating ACLU you cant even have the 10 Commandments in your own home.

Plus,to take away the 10 Commandments in Alabama is saying that any law this Country is invalid,cause this Country and it's laws originated from the 10 Commandments.

 

[hgc]

Re: ceo-esq

According to the God hating ACLU you cant even have the 10 Commandments in your own home.

When and where did this happen? Evidence?

Plus,to take away the 10 Commandments in Alabama is saying that any law this Country is invalid,cause this Country and it's laws originated from the 10 Commandments.

Evidence?

 

[Max560]

Fortunately, there are no Supreme Court rulings against displaying images depicting Cthulhu.

 

[Suddenly]

Re: ceo-esq

According to the God hating ACLU you cant even have the 10 Commandments in your own home.

BWAHAHA!! Where did you get this from? I had no idea people really thought like that. Can't have the ten commandments in your home? This is a joke, right?

Plus,to take away the 10 Commandments in Alabama is saying that any law this Country is invalid,cause this Country and it's laws originated from the 10 Commandments.

Ummm. You do realize they are talking about a monument. You are perfectly free to wonder the streets of Mobile reciting the 10 comandments, or move there and live your life according to them or even tatoo them on your rear end.

I also assure you that 10 commandments or no, Alabama's murder and theft statutes will still be in effect. It's just that a big rock with stuff on it will be moved. There is something against idol worship in that list, isn't there?

 

[Lord Emsworth]

Re: ceo-esq

Plus,to take away the 10 Commandments in Alabama is saying that any law this Country is invalid,cause this Country and it's laws originated from the 10 Commandments.

The USA originated from the 10 Commandments?

And the law of the US, too? I thought it was based on Roman law [shrug]

 

[Ossai]

billiefan2000

Plus,to take away the 10 Commandments in Alabama is saying that any law this Country is invalid, cause this Country and it's laws originated from the 10 Commandments.

Wrong. This countries laws aren't based on the 10 commandments. The commandments are basically divisible into two camps. The first is the egocentric god camp and the second is the secular camp. The egocentric commandments include the not other god, worship me, I’m special, etc commandments. The secular camp includes basic social laws that were around long before the commandments were even written.

Ossai

 

[Nyarlathotep]

Re: ceo-esq

According to the God hating ACLU you cant even have the 10 Commandments in your own home.

Plus,to take away the 10 Commandments in Alabama is saying that any law this Country is invalid,cause this Country and it's laws originated from the 10 Commandments.

Puh-leeze, now you are just making sh!t up.

Exactly when did it become illegal to have a copy of the 10 commandments in ones home. By extension, if that were true, it would be illegal to own a Bible. I am pretty sure that I would have heard something on the news about the public outcry if that were true.

Further if such a law WERE proposed, I am sure that the ACLU would be the first to fight against it.

as for US law deriving from the 10 commandments I propose a simple test. Some of the commandments (like "thou shalt no kill" are simple laws of morality that have existed in every culture since humanity existed, show me how one of the others, like "Thou Shalt not covet" are in the law.

Conversely show me how any of the 10 commandments (specifically) is the basis for something like Federal Toxic Waste regulations, or drug laws.

 

[Lord Emsworth]

The 10 commandments are found here.

20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Are you punished for having other Gods before the Lord in the US?

20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

Are you punished in the US if you break this commandment?

20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

What is taking the name of the Lord in vain? Is it punished in the US?

20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Are you punished for washing your car or doing chores on Sunday in the US? Are you punished if you work or do labour seven days a week?

20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

Are you punished in the US if you don't?

20:13 Thou shalt not kill.

Basically the same in US law. You are punished if you kill (there are exceptions)

20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Are you punished in the US if you do?

20:15 Thou shalt not steal.

Basically the same as in US law.

20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

Billiefan2000 must have overlooked this one. But after all, US law does not punish it (except perjury and similar)

20.17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

Is coveting punished in the US?



I am counting two and a half commandments that are realized in US law.

 

[Suddenly]

Actually at least one state still has laws prohibiting adultry on the books. In West Virginia it is a misdemeanor carrying a fine of "not less than twenty dollars." Which means, I guess, that the fine could be infinite. (W.Va. Code 61-8-2)

 

[ceo_esq]

Not to promote my own material - and certainly not to appear to side with Billiefan, whose views expressed in this thread I regard as generally asinine - but anyone interested in reading this lawyer's perspective (and several dissenting views) on the real relationship between the Ten Commandments and American law is invited to peruse this thread.

 

[Dancing David]

Gee Billiefan,
It must be fun to put both your feet in your mouth,

I am not calling you a liar but you definitly have a problem with what truth is. I will post a thread specificaly apologising to you if you can prove that the ACLU has ever tried to have the ten commandments removed from a private home.

So, where is the proof Billiefan, you will get an apology from a real life pagan (you know the kind that like really prays to dieties like Freya and Isis) if you can demostrate that the ACLU ever tried to remove the ten comandments from a private home.

I await your proof and my apology.

Sincerely
David

 

[Hexxenhammer]

Fortunately, there are no Supreme Court rulings against displaying images depicting Cthulhu.

However, this is usually not done because they tend to induce insanity. Wait. Does that Alabama judge have a Cthulhu sculpture in his office?

 

[Gregor]

Billie

What US law prevents us from boiling a goat in its mother's milk and requires us to give our first fruits to the Lord. Those are the 9th and 10th commandments in the TRUE TEN Commandments. Exodus 34:26 - labeled as such for your reading pleasure.

Please get off you ass and read that stupid book you purport to quote and defend.

That's why that ridiculous judge is even more ridiculous - he citing the WRONG ten commandments.

 

[Yahweh]

Re: ceo-esq

According to the God hating ACLU you cant even have the 10 Commandments in your own home.

Thanks for the laugh, youre a real riot. By the way, making up your own "facts" doesnt constitute as a very strong arguement. [buzzer] Try again.

Plus,to take away the 10 Commandments in Alabama is saying that any law this Country is invalid,cause this Country and it's laws originated from the 10 Commandments.

Bulls**t. This is even worse than making up your own facts (which you are by the way), you are coming to a completely ignorant and stupid conclusion based on absolutely nothing. There is no logical way you can assert that removing of the 10 commandments invalidates all the laws in the country.

Billiefan, your little fantasy is fine and dandy, but for the sake of Yahweh, dont make ◊◊◊◊ up. Make sure you remember not to ignore why atheists have the beliefs they do (because hiding your head in the sand and ignoring all that isnt the same as your beliefs is an exercise of ignorance), you have to learn as much as you can and understand why people think the way they do.

 

[Flaherty]

Re: ceo-esq

According to the God hating ACLU you cant even have the 10 Commandments in your own home.

Plus,to take away the 10 Commandments in Alabama is saying that any law this Country is invalid,cause this Country and it's laws originated from the 10 Commandments.

Oh man! We wait around all day for softballs this easy.

 

[Nyarlathotep]

Re: Re: ceo-esq

Oh man! We wait around all day for softballs this easy.

Softball? That gives it too much credit. I would liken it more to a nerf ball tossed by a three year old.