U.N. coverup?...or simple mistake?

[zenith-nadir]

full text: U.N. Finds 1994 Rwanda Crash Black Box

UNITED NATIONS - In what Secretary-General Kofi Annan called a "first-class foul-up," the United Nations said Thursday it has discovered a black box sent from Rwanda after a 1994 plane crash that unleashed a genocide in the east African nation.

The device was found Wednesday in a locked filing cabinet in the U.N. Peacekeeping Department's Air Safety Unit. Aviation experts put it there apparently in the belief its "pristine condition" ruled out the possibility that it came from the downed Falcon 50 jet, U.N. spokesman Fred Eckhard said.

The United Nations now intends to immediately send the black box — technically known as a flight data recorder — to "a qualified outside body for analysis of its contents" to determine whether it came from the plane that was carrying the presidents of Rwanda and Burundi, Eckhard said.

The April 6, 1994 crash killed Rwandan President Juvenal Habyarimana, a Hutu, and his Burundian counterpart, Cyprien Ntaryamira, who had been attending a regional summit in Arusha, Tanzania.

When it became clear the plane had been shot down, Hutu extremists accused Tutsis of assassinating the Rwandan president and began attacking their longtime ethnic foes. The slaughter lasted about 100 days and claimed the lives of more than 500,000 people, most Tutsis.

Ok, I am going to go out on a limb and say COVERUP.

The U.N. Peacekeeping Department's Air Safety Unit does not recieve new black boxes to be store indefinitely in U.N. filing cabinets. That is just too far fetched to be believed.

Why? The U.N. Peacekeeping Department's Air Safety Unit received the black box from other members of the U.N. who sent it to them with documentation and obviously the reason they sent the black box to the U.N. Peacekeeping Department's Air Safety Unit.

(edited to add: Didn't the people who sent the black box from Rwanda ask what happened to it?... a week later?...a month later?...a year later?)


Black boxes from Rwanda just don't show up one day in New York with a sticker on it saying "for storage".

 

[Jon_in_london]

Ok, I am going to go out on a limb and say COVERUP.

If it doesnt involve the CIA, MI5, Mossad, the illuminati, the military-industrial comlex, GM crops, a few oil companies and the Kinghts Templar then it cant be true

 

[Jocko]

I dunno... I have no love for the UN (the principle I admire, the execution I find appalling) but if they wanted to get rid of evidence, why keep it at all? Surely whoever stored it had the capacity to destroy it?

And never, ever underestimate the potential depth for good-meaning but utterly inept bumbling on the part of the UN.

I guess it all depends on what they find on the tapes.

Edited to correct the impression that the UN's motives were goo meaning.

 

[Graham]

Re: Re: U.N. coverup?...or simple mistake?

If it doesnt involve the CIA, MI5, Mossad, the illuminati, the military-industrial comlex, GM crops, a few oil companies and the Kinghts Templar then it cant be true

The UN is like a trump card in all conspiracy discussions though. If the UN are involved, it's just assumed that all those others are in there somewhere too.

Furthermore, black boxes from Rwanda just don't show up one day in New York with a sticker on it saying "for storage" therefore all of the preceeding unfounded speculation has to be completely true,doesn't it?

 

[epepke]

Anoher "chirping crickets" thread. If a flight data recorder had been discovered in a US government office after eight weeks, let alone eight years, the usual suspects would be all over this thread like flies on manure. But since it's the UN, which is like a love-pulse matrix becoming a Technicolor interpositive and can do no wrong, nothing.

 

[NoZed Avenger]

In a related story, a UN janitor also discovered that Jimmy Hoffa had, in fact, been employed as a floor waxer for the past 22 years when he accidentally tripped over Mr. Hoffa's equipment.

Luckily, his fall was broken by a large box of Rose law firm billing records, but unfortunately, he also managed to break the seal on a nearby box labelled "IRQ WMD."

The janitor, a frail, elderly german man identified only as "Mr. Hilter," was unavailable for further comment.

 

[zenith-nadir]

I dunno... I have no love for the UN (the principle I admire, the execution I find appalling) but if they wanted to get rid of evidence, why keep it at all? Surely whoever stored it had the capacity to destroy it? And never, ever underestimate the potential depth for good-meaning but utterly inept bumbling on the part of the UN. I guess it all depends on what they find on the tapes. Edited to correct the impression that the UN's motives were goo meaning.

Well my feeling is you have a flight data recorder sent to the U.N. Peacekeeping Department's Air Safety Unit from the crash of Rwandan President Juvenal Habyarimana and Cyprien Ntaryamira's plane crash.

And the "guy in receiving" at the U.N. Peacekeeping Department's Air Safety Unit had no idea what this flight data recorder was?...or who it came from?...or why it was sent to him?...or who it belonged to?.....he just put it in a cabinet for storage cuz it looked new? And in 10 years nobody asked where it was?

Hahahahaha!...impossible to believe.

 

[zenith-nadir]

Anoher "chirping crickets" thread. If a flight data recorder had been discovered in a US government office after eight weeks, let alone eight years, the usual suspects would be all over this thread like flies on manure. But since it's the UN, which is like a love-pulse matrix becoming a Technicolor interpositive and can do no wrong, nothing.

But a flight data recorder was not discovered in a US government office after eight weeks. So that hypothesis really does not address or disprove why the flight data recorder from Rwandan President Juvenal Habyarimana and Cyprien Ntaryamira's plane crash disappeared for 10 years.

 

[zenith-nadir]

More info: Former U.N. Official Says Black Box "got Put on a Shelf"

UNITED NATIONS (AP) - A retired U.N. worker said officials had sought to analyze a flight data recorder that may have come from a plane crash that killed Rwanda's president on the eve of the 1994 genocide, but no one responded to the requests.

The black box was discovered in the United Nations on Wednesday in a filing cabinet in the department's Air Safety Unit - 10 years after it was sent by diplomatic pouch to U.N. headquarters. It was a major embarrassment for the United Nations and Secretary-General Kofi Annan.

Earlier this week, U.N. spokesman Fred Eckhard said there was no such black box and dismissed claims made in a French investigation that the United Nations was guilty of obstruction of justice for failing to inspect it. Later, Eckhard acknowledged the black box had been found.

Denis Beissel, who retired from the United Nations last year, told The Associated Press he had received the black box and believed it was important, but there were so many peacekeeping missions at the time that it was forgotten. He said that during that period, he once got 1,000 pieces of mail in a single day.

He said that because the plane was not a U.N. aircraft, officials put out requests about who should handle the investigation, but no one responded.

The allegations about the black box first appeared in the French newspaper Le Monde earlier this week. According to the paper, a secret French investigation believes the chief suspect in the plane's downing is current Rwandan President Paul Kagame, a Tutsi who was the leader of a rebel movement at the time. Kagame has denied the allegation.

The international community's failure to stop the genocide is a source of embarrassment and pain for Annan, who was head of U.N. peacekeeping at the time.

So a flight data recorder arrived at the U.N. in a diplomatic pouch. It came from the plane which was shot down that carried the Rwandan President Juvenal Habyarimana, a Hutu, and his Burundian counterpart, Cyprien Ntaryamira.

So Denis Beissel was just so busy with mail at the U.N. that he forgot about a black box...while other U.N. officials requested an investigation into the black box but nobody at the U.N. including Kofi Annan, (the head of 'peacekeeping'), mysteriously failed to respond..... AND strangely enough nobody at the U.N. ever inquired about the black box over the past 10 years. And then U.N. spokesman Fred Eckhard says there was no such black box!

What happened to the papertrail concerning the black box?...did it dissapear into fairy dust too? ....oh, ya, sure, I believe them...Or maybe in reality Kofi did not want to implicate current Rwandan President Paul Kagame.

 

[zenith-nadir]

The plot sickens....

Wed Mar 17 2004 - Black Box Not Thought to Be From Rwanda

UNITED NATIONS - Initial tests indicate that the flight recorder recently discovered at the United Nations is not linked to a 1994 plane crash that triggered Rwanda's genocide, a U.N. spokesman said Wednesday.

In a major embarrassment for the world organization, the recorder was discovered a week ago in a filing cabinet in the U.N.'s Air Safety Unit where it apparently languished for a decade after its arrival by diplomatic pouch from the U.N. Mission in Rwanda.

On Tuesday, U.N. officials took the "black box" to the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board in Washington where it was opened in the presence of experts from the International Civil Aviation Organization, a U.N. agency based in Montreal, said U.N. spokesman Fred Eckhard.

After last week's discovery, there was speculation the recorder might have been from the plane shot down while carrying Rwandan President Juvenal Habyarimana and his counterpart from Burundi from a meeting in Tanzania. The genocide in Rwanda began as news of Habyarimana's death spread, and by the time it ended more than 500,000 people had been killed.

"Nothing heard so far on the tape links the CVR (cockpit voice recorder) to the aircraft crash on April 6, 1994 in Rwanda," he said.

Now suddenly, the black box is not the black box sent in a diplomatic pouch from the U.N. Mission in Rwanda....It is a "mystery" black box...that sat on a shelf for 10 years

So where did this "mystery" black box come from? Why did U.N. officials send it to N.Y.? Why did nobody reply to the status of the black box? Who 'faked' a black box to send and why?

Curious indeed...

 

[Dorian Gray]

Oh. I thought this thread was going to be about the "oil-for-food" scandal with Annan's son.

 

[Blue Monk]

Boy, I can't wait to hear the motive for this 'cover-up.' It'll have to be one hell of a stretch.

 

[Grammatron]

Oh. I thought this thread was going to be about the "oil-for-food" scandal with Annan's son.

I think you should start a thread on that topic.

 

[zenith-nadir]

Boy, I can't wait to hear the motive for this 'cover-up.' It'll have to be one hell of a stretch.

Here's why the whole thing stinks to high heaven to me.

Rwandan President Juvenal Habyarimana, a Hutu, and his Burundian counterpart, Cyprien Ntaryamira are shot down over Rwanada. The only suspect is current Rwandan President Paul Kagame, a Tutsi, who was the rebel leader at the time.

So the U.N. peacekeeping forces in Rwanda, under Kofi Annan, send the CVR from the crash to U.N. headquarters in New York via diplomatic pouch. Mysteriously once in New York no one at the U.N. replies to the status of the CVR and it is buried for 10 years.

Then U.N. spokesman Fred Eckhard says there was no such CVR and dismisses claims made in a French investigation that the United Nations was guilty of obstruction of justice for failing to inspect it.

Then the CVR is "found", but alas, it is not the CVR from Rwandan President Juvenal Habyarimana's plane crash. It is a "mystery" CVR and after 10 years no one knows what happened to the original.

If that is not a coverup I dunno what is...