Twoofers, is terrorism not a big deal?

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Many CFs like to claim that terrorism is something made up by the government or that it's not a big deal. While this claim is absurd, I am curious to know what some of the CFs in this forum think about it. Oh and CFs before you resond, please read the following list. Are they all purpotrated by the government? Or was that just 9/11? (deleted half of the list. See the link at the bottom of the page for the entire list)

Bombing of the Federal Building in Oklahoma City, April 19, 1995:
Right-wing extremists Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols destroyed the Federal Building in Oklahoma City with a massive truck bomb that killed 166 and injured hundreds more in what was up to then the largest terrorist attack on American soil.

Attack on U.S. Diplomats in Pakistan, March 8, 1995:
Two unidentified gunmen killed two U.S. diplomats and wounded a third in Karachi, Pakistan.

FARC Hostage-taking, September 23, 1994:
FARC rebels kidnapped U.S. citizen Thomas Hargrove in Colombia.

Hebron Massacre, February 25, 1994:
Jewish right-wing extremist and U.S. citizen Baruch Goldstein machine-gunned Moslem worshippers at a mosque in West Bank town of Hebron, killing 29 and wounding about 150.

Attempted Assassination of President Bush by Iraqi Agents, April 14, 1993:
The Iraqi intelligence service attempted to assassinate former U.S. President George Bush during a visit to Kuwait. In retaliation, the U.S. launched a cruise missile attack 2 months later on the Iraqi capital Baghdad.

World Trade Center Bombing, February 26, 1993:
The World Trade Center in New York City was badly damaged when a car bomb planted by Islamic terrorists exploded in an underground garage. The bomb left 6 people dead and 1,000 injured. The men carrying out the attack were followers of Umar Abd al-Rahman, an Egyptian cleric who preached in the New York City area.

Kidnappings of U.S. Citizens in Colombia, January 31, 1993:
Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) terrorists kidnapped three U.S. missionaries.

Kidnapping of U.S. Businessmen in the Philippines, January 17-21, 1992:
A senior official of the corporation Philippine Geothermal was kidnapped in Manila by the Red Scorpion Group, and two U.S. businessmen were seized independently by the National Liberation Army and by Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC).

Sniper Attack on the U.S. Embassy in Bonn, February 13, 1991:
Three Red Army Faction members fired automatic rifles from across the Rhine River at the U.S. Embassy Chancery. No one was hurt.

Attempted Iraqi Attacks on U.S. Posts, January 18-19, 1991:
Iraqi agents planted bombs at the U.S. Ambassador to Indonesia's home residence and at the USIS library in Manila.

U.S. Soldiers Assassinated in the Philippines, May 13, 1990:
The New People's Army (NPA) killed two U.S. Air Force personnel near Clark Air Force Base in the Philippines.

U.S. Embassy Bombed in Peru, January 15, 1990:
The Tupac Amaru Revolutionary Movement bombed the U.S. Embassy in Lima, Peru.

Assassination of U.S. Army Officer, April 21, 1989:
The New People's Army (NPA) assassinated Colonel James Rowe in Manila. The NPA also assassinated two U.S. government defense contractors in September.

Pan Am 103 Bombing, December 21, 1988:
Pan American Airlines Flight 103 was blown up over Lockerbie, Scotland, by a bomb believed to have been placed on the aircraft by Libyan terrorists in Frankfurt, West Germany. All 259 people on board were killed.

Attack on U.S. Diplomat in Greece, June 28, 1988:
The Defense Attaché of the U.S. Embassy in Greece was killed when a car-bomb was detonated outside his home in Athens.

Naples USO Attack, April 14, 1988:
The Organization of Jihad Brigades exploded a car-bomb outside a USO Club in Naples, Italy, killing one U.S. sailor.

Kidnapping of William Higgins, February 17, 1988:
U.S. Marine Corps Lieutenant Colonel W. Higgins was kidnapped and murdered by the Iranian-backed Hizballah group while serving with the United Nations Truce Supervisory Organization (UNTSO) in southern Lebanon.

Servicemen's Bar Attack, December 26, 1987:
Catalan separatists bombed a Barcelona bar frequented by U.S. servicemen, resulting in the death of one U.S. citizen.

Bus Attack, April 24, 1987:
Sixteen U.S. servicemen riding in a Greek Air Force bus near Athens were injured in an apparent bombing attack, carried out by the revolutionary organization known as November 17.

Berlin Discothèque Bombing, April 5, 1986:
Two U.S. soldiers were killed and 79 American servicemen were injured in a Libyan bomb attack on a nightclub in West Berlin, West Germany. In retaliation U.S. military jets bombed targets in and around Tripoli and Benghazi.

Aircraft Bombing in Greece, March 30, 1986:
A Palestinian splinter group detonated a bomb as TWA Flight 840 approached Athens airport, killing four U.S. citizens.

Airport Attacks in Rome and Vienna, December 27, 1985:
Four gunmen belonging to the Abu Nidal Organization attacked the El Al and Trans World Airlines ticket counters at Rome's Leonardo da Vinci Airport with grenades and automatic rifles. Thirteen persons were killed and 75 were wounded before Italian police and Israeli security guards killed three of the gunmen and captured the fourth. Three more Abu Nidal gunmen attacked the El Al ticket counter at Vienna's Schwechat Airport, killing three persons and wounding 30. Austrian police killed one of the gunmen and captured the others.

Egyptian Airliner Hijacking, November 23, 1985:
An EgyptAir airplane bound from Athens to Malta and carrying several U.S. citizens was hijacked by the Abu Nidal Group.

Achille Lauro Hijacking, October 7, 1985:
Four Palestinian Liberation Front terrorists seized the Italian cruise liner in the eastern Mediterranean Sea, taking more than 700 hostages. One U.S. passenger was murdered before the Egyptian government offered the terrorists safe haven in return for the hostages' freedom.

Attack on a Restaurant in El Salvador, June 19, 1985:
Members of the FMLN (Farabundo Marti National Liberation Front) fired on a restaurant in the Zona Rosa district of San Salvador, killing four Marine Security Guards assigned to the U.S. Embassy and nine Salvadorean civilians.

TWA Hijacking, June 14, 1985:
A Trans-World Airlines flight was hijacked en route to Rome from Athens by two Lebanese Hizballah terrorists and forced to fly to Beirut. The eight crew members and 145 passengers were held for seventeen days, during which one American hostage, a U.S. Navy sailor, was murdered. After being flown twice to Algiers, the aircraft was returned to Beirut after Israel released 435 Lebanese and Palestinian prisoners.

Kidnapping of U.S. Officials in Mexico, February 7, 1985:
Under the orders of narcotrafficker Rafael Caro Quintero, Drug Enforcement Administration agent Enrique Camarena Salazar and his pilot were kidnapped, tortured and executed.

Restaurant Bombing in Spain, April 12, 1984:
Eighteen U.S. servicemen were killed and 83 people were injured in a bomb attack on a restaurant near a U.S. Air Force Base in Torrejon, Spain.

Kidnapping of Embassy Official, March 16, 1984:
The Islamic Jihad kidnapped and later murdered Political Officer William Buckley in Beirut, Lebanon. Other U.S. citizens not connected to the U.S. government were seized over a succeeding two-year period.

Naval Officer Assassinated in Greece, November 15, 1983:
A U.S. Navy officer was shot by the November 17 terrorist group in Athens, Greece, while his car was stopped at a traffic light.

Bombing of Marine Barracks, Beirut, October 23, 1983:
Simultaneous suicide truck-bomb attacks were made on American and French compounds in Beirut, Lebanon. A 12,000-pound bomb destroyed the U.S. compound, killing 242 Americans, while 58 French troops were killed when a 400-pound device destroyed a French base. Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.

Naval Officer Assassinated in El Salvador, May 25, 1983:
A U.S. Navy officer was assassinated by the Farabundo Marti National Liberation Front.

Bombing of U.S. Embassy in Beirut, April 18, 1983:
Sixty-three people, including the CIA's Middle East director, were killed and 120 were injured in a 400-pound suicide truck-bomb attack on the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, Lebanon. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.

Colombian Hostage-taking, April 8, 1983:
A U.S. citizen was seized by the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) and held for ransom.

Murder of Missionaries, December 4, 1981:
Three American nuns and one lay missionary were found murdered outside San Salvador, El Salvador. They were killed by members of the National Guard, and the killers are currently in prison.

Assassination of Egyptian President, October 6, 1981:
Soldiers who were secretly members of the Takfir Wal-Hajira sect attacked and killed Egyptian President Anwar Sadat during a troop review.

U.S. Installation Bombing, August 31, 1981:
The Red Army exploded a bomb at the U.S. Air Force Base at Ramstein, West Germany.

Grand Mosque Seizure, November 20, 1979:
200 Islamic terrorists seized the Grand Mosque in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, taking hundreds of pilgrims hostage. Saudi and French security forces retook the shrine after an intense battle in which some 250 people were killed and 600 wounded.

Iran Hostage Crisis, November 4, 1979:
After President Carter agreed to admit the Shah of Iran into the US, Iranian radicals seized the U.S. Embassy in Tehran and took 66 American diplomats hostage. Thirteen hostages were soon released, but the remaining 53 were held until their release on January 20, 1981.

Ambassador to Afghanistan Assassinated, February 14, 1979:
Four Afghans kidnapped U.S. Ambassador Adolph Dubs in Kabul and demanded the release of various "religious figures." Dubs was killed, along with four alleged terrorists, when Afghan police stormed the hotel room where he was being held.

Assassination of Former Chilean Diplomat, September 21, 1976:
Exiled Chilean Foreign Minister Orlando Letelier was killed by a car-bomb in Washington.

Domestic Terrorism, January 27-29, 1975:
Puerto Rican nationalists bombed a Wall Street bar, killing four and injuring 60; two days later, the Weather Underground claims responsibility for an explosion in a bathroom at the U.S. Department of State in Washington.

Ambassador to Cyprus Assassinated, August 19, 1974:
U.S. Ambassador to Cyprus Rodger P. Davies and his Greek Cypriot secretary were shot and killed by snipers during a demonstration outside the U.S. Embassy in Nicosia.

Attack and Hijacking at the Rome Airport, December 17, 1973:
Five terrorists pulled weapons from their luggage in the terminal lounge at the Rome airport, killing two persons. They then attacked a Pan American 707 bound for Beirut and Tehran, destroying it with incendiary grenades and killing 29 persons, including 4 senior Moroccan officials and 14 American employees of ARAMCO. They then herded 5 Italian hostages into a Lufthansa airliner and killed an Italian customs agent as he tried to escape, after which they forced the pilot to fly to Beirut. After Lebanese authorities refused to let the plane land, it landed in Athens, where the terrorists demanded the release of 2 Arab terrorists. In order to make Greek authorities comply with their demands, the terrorists killed a hostage and threw his body onto the tarmac. The plane then flew to Damascus, where it stopped for two hours to obtain fuel and food. It then flew to Kuwait, where the terrorists released their hostages in return for passage to an unknown destination. The Palestine Liberation Organization disavowed the attack, and no group claimed responsibility for it.

Consul General in Mexico Kidnapped, May 4, 1973:
U.S. Consul General in Guadalajara Terrence Leonhardy was kidnapped by members of the People's Revolutionary Armed Forces.

Ambassador to Sudan Assassinated, March 2, 1973:
U.S. Ambassador to Sudan Cleo A. Noel and other diplomats were assassinated at the Saudi Arabian Embassy in Khartoum by members of the Black September organization.

Munich Olympic Massacre, September 5, 1972:
Eight Palestinian "Black September" terrorists seized eleven Israeli athletes in the Olympic Village in Munich, West Germany. In a bungled rescue attempt by West German authorities, nine of the hostages and five terrorists were killed.

"Bloody Friday," July 21, 1972:
An Irish Republican Army (IRA) bomb attacks killed eleven people and injure 130 in Belfast, Northern Ireland. Ten days later, three IRA car bomb attacks in the village of Claudy left six dead.

U.S. Agency for International Development Adviser Kidnapped, July 31, 1970:
In Montevideo, Uruguay, the Tupamaros terrorist group kidnapped AID Police adviser Dan Mitrione; his body was found on August 10.

Ambassador to Brazil Kidnapped, September 3, 1969:
U.S. Ambassador to Brazil Charles Burke Elbrick was kidnapped by the Marxist revolutionary group MR-8.

Ambassador to Japan Attacked, July 30, 1969:
U.S. Ambassador to Japan A.H. Meyer was attacked by a knife-wielding Japanese citizen.

Ambassador to Guatemala Assassinated, August 28, 1968:
U.S. Ambassador to Guatemala John Gordon Mein was murdered by a rebel faction when gunmen forced his official car off the road in Guatemala City and raked the vehicle with gunfire.

First U.S. Aircraft Hijacked, May 1, 1961:
Puerto Rican born Antuilo Ramierez Ortiz forced at gunpoint a National Airlines plane to fly to Havana, Cuba, where he was given asylum.

http://www.army.mil/terrorism/read.html
 
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Not trying to backsead mod or anything, but you might want to just provide the link and a snippet per rule 4.
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I'd be interested to know if twoofers think non-false flag terrorism even exists.
 
Just to point out that if we add - just for starters - IRA and ETA terrorism, we could double it's length. Although not necessarily the body count.
 
Ramzi Yousef can confirm that 9/11 was not an inside job and that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is Ramzi Yousefs uncle. Ramzi Yousef is in ADX Florence. So why wont Dylan Avery go to ADX Florence and interview Ramzi Yousef? It would be funny? Avery would probaly say that Ramzi Yousef works for the government and so would Alex Jones. So if Ramzi Yousef work for the government then why is he in jail? Why hasn"t Ramzi Yousef said that 9/11 was an inside job? Some people say that this is what Ramzi Yousef said:

"World Trade Center, one of the agents that was onboard the helicopter said to Mr. Yousef that the World Trade Center was still standing. And in no uncertain terms, Yousef's response was, "It would not have been, had we had more money."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/terrorism/interviews/schiliro.html

And I guess Osama Bin Laden was the one who gave them the money they needed?
 
Oh yeah and then there is this. Somebody please ask the twoofers who killed Ahmad Shah Massoud. Ahmad Shah Massoud was assassinated by al-Qaeda agents in September 9, 2001.
 
And twoofers USA and ISI didn"t support Osama Bin Laden in the Soviet-Afghan War. They supported Gulbuddin Hekmatyar. And here is what Gulbuddin said:

"Afghan warlord Gulbuddin Hekmatyar says his fighters helped al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden escape

"We helped them get out of the caves and led them to a safe place," he said."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6252975.stm
 
Just to point out that if we add - just for starters - IRA and ETA terrorism, we could double it's length. Although not necessarily the body count.

Yup...the IRA,though I an not in the least trying to defend them....did seem to understand that huge bodycounts would backfire on them.
Excellent list. And it is not only the twoofers who try to prove that Terrorism is No Big Thing. You have few Non Truthers over on politics who try to say the same thing.
You can debate about how wisely the Bush Administration has handled the problem...not very wisely at all,imho, ..but to pretend the problem is not really serious and the way to handle it is to go back to a pre 9/11 "benign Neglect" is stupid.
 
Twoofers, is terrorism not a big deal?

Well if your list there is proof of anything I would say not too often and not lately. I think more people in America are killed every year crossing the street. Maybe we should have a war on crossing the street.
 
Well if your list there is proof of anything I would say not too often and not lately. I think more people in America are killed every year crossing the street. Maybe we should have a war on crossing the street.


In actuality, it’s being struck by vehicles that gets people killed, and I believe there are measures in place to minimise that. If “being struck by vehicles” were a tangible moral agent and not a concept, then perhaps it might make a good target for a war, yes.
 
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In actuality, it’s being struck by vehicles that gets people killed, and I believe there are measures in place to minimise that. If “being struck by vehicles” were a tangible moral agent and not a concept, then perhaps it might make a good target for a war, yes.

Took the words right out of my mouth. LastChild, a response?
 
There is a subclass of people in the world who actually seem to believe that everything that happens is a result of the evil US government.
 
terrorism doesnt exist!!! its all fabricated by the NWO/Zionists/Illuminati/Lilaputions
 
Ramzi Yousef can confirm that 9/11 was not an inside job and that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is Ramzi Yousefs uncle. Ramzi Yousef is in ADX Florence. So why wont Dylan Avery go to ADX Florence and interview Ramzi Yousef?


In all fairness I seriously doubt Dylan Avery would be able to get permission to interview Ramzi Yousef.
 

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