Two-bit conservative news agency given White House access.

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Two hard-core Republicans (Jeff Gannon and Bobby Eberle) start a news service with volunteer reporters and they are given access to White House press conferences where they are ask questions like:

"Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the U.S. economy. Harry Reid was talking about soup lines. And Hillary Clinton was talking about the economy being on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work - you've said you are going to reach out to these people - how are you going to work with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"

Now the Bush administration is not even trying to pretend that it is not sleeping with the media.
 
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Ha, ha, ha, ho, ho. Yes, I do see the humor.

O.K. now that the laughing is over can we discuss the inappropropriateness of the Bush admnistration giving press corp access to people pretending to be journalists.
 
Ladewig said:
Now the Bush administration is not even trying to pretend that it is not sleeping with the media.

Can you get a list of other members of the media that attend these white house press conferences so we can compare and contrast?
 
hammegk said:
Perhaps Democrats are more apt to reward enemies and punish friends?
Within the context of the Bush Admin elimination of the line between governing and politiking, your snide irrelevancy has a surprising resonance.
 
hgc said:
your snide irrelevancy has a surprising resonance.
Guess it wasn't an "irrelevancy" then?

Most aren't for those with a modicum of understanding. Sorry nearly all miss you.
 
I'm sure I saw (and heard) these shills in the last news conference our fearless leader gave. It almost seemed like they were given a script to read from when asking a question.

And who gave them that script? Satan! Well almost, it was Karl Rove.

Charlie (just my opinion) Monoxide
 
hammegk said:
Guess it wasn't an "irrelevancy" then?

Most aren't for those with a modicum of understanding. Sorry nearly all miss you.
Nah. I got another theory: Everything you say is as pointless as it seems, meaning considerably. But then occassionally it can be read in a way you didn't intend to make a point antithetical to your imaginings.
 
There has been a lot of discussion of, and investigation into, this story going on over at Daily Kos.

Here's a link to one of the most recent threads about Gannon (as of the time I am writing this post). As you can see if you click the link, this is the 7th diary in a series. I recommend taking the time to read this thread, and (if you find it interesting) to go back and read some of the previous ones (which the thread-starter conveniently links to, so I'll quote that part of her diary).
Previous Plame Diaries:

Diary I: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/28/203014/655
Diary II: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/29/152730/137
Diary III: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/29/233122/523
Diary IV: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/30/9415/11717#300
Diary V: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/30/195059/065
Diary VI:http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/1/31/93126/4150

Diary I has the initial Media Matters, Atrios and Talon News information that started this off. Diary IV has the best summarized update if you want to get up to speed on what's going on and join the party.
Or, here's an overview entry on Jeff Gannon which summarizes some of the material and provides links to many of the threads.

Here, too, is a link to a DKos thread about Bobby Eberle.

There are many intriguing questions here, such as how someone whose only journalistic credential appears to be a $50 workshop got credentialed by the White House to be part of the White House Press Corps. But the reason why this story is of special interest to me is that it appears likely there is a link between Gannon/Talon and the outing of Valerie Plame (the CIA agent whose name was made public after her husband whistle-blew on the Bush administration, in a leak which is under investigation.)

I'm fond of seeing mysteries solved, and the question of who leaked Plame is one I've been hoping to see a solution to. George W. Bush has also expressed an interest in seeing this mystery solved. It is starting to look possible that he and I may get our wish granted.
 
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RussDill said:
Can you get a list of other members of the media that attend these white house press conferences so we can compare and contrast?

I can't find any list at WhiteHouse.Gov. I tried some search engines, but I'm not that skilled at searching efficiently.


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such as how someone whose only journalistic credential appears to be a $50 workshop

You mean if I had called them a 4-bit news agency I would have been off by only two orders of magnitude?
 
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Ladewig said:
You mean if I had called them a 4-bit news agency I would have been off by only two orders of magnitude?
Possibly by less than that. Included in the $50 fee for the workshop is not only all the instruction and materials, but also meals and, in selected cases, lodging. Considering what even cheap food and accomodations cost in the DC area -- and I suspect the food and accomodations provided may not have been cheap -- it may not be the order of magnitude that you'd be off by so much as the plus or minus sign.
 
Nova Land said:
There has been a lot of discussion of, and investigation into, this story going on over at Daily Kos.
Oh boy! The (undisclosed) paid mouthpiece of the Howard Dean campaign is upset about this! I'm drowning in the hypocracy...
 
Originally posted by me: There has been a lot of discussion of, and investigation into, this story going on over at Daily Kos.

Response by WildCat :Oh boy! The (undisclosed) paid mouthpiece of the Howard Dean campaign is upset about this! I'm drowning in the hypocracy...

Error # 1: "(undisclosed)". I am puzzled how you made this particular error, since even the Slate article you cite acknowledges and posts a link to his disclosure that he had been hired by the Dean campaign. Here is that link, to the June 09, 2003 Daily Kos entry. (Please note the title, "Full Disclosure", which is a subtle clue to its contents.)
Full Disclosure

I've been on the road a lot the past few months. Some of it was for my day job as a web developer. But the bulk of it was for my new political consulting firm...

I spent this weekend in Burlington, VT, where we officially accepted work on behalf of presidential candidate Howard Dean. Dean joins a Senate candidate in our still small but hopefully growing roster of clients.

Of course, this means many of you will accuse of me of certain biases (with good reason).

That's fine. I never claimed to be free of bias. But I've always been able to see past such biases to do what I love to do -- analyze the political landscape. For example, I'm biased against Gephardt, yet have had no problem slapping him in first for the Cattle Call. My approach to writing will remain unchanged. I won't turn this into a rah-rah for Dean site. That's just not my style.

Ultimately, I trust you all to take what I write with the proper grain of salt, fully appraised of whatever conflicts of interest I may have.

But for the record, I will not discuss my role within the Dean campaign, other than to say it's technical, not message or strategy...
There's more, but that gives the essence. I'd call that a pretty clear statement.

Kos not only disclosed this at the time of his hiring, he posted a disclosure prominently on his blog for the entire length of his contract with Dean. Here is a link to an archived screen-shot of the June 23, 2003 Daily Kos. Please note this is posted at the top left-hand of the screen, in plain text and plain sight.
Disclaimer: I do some technical work for Howard Dean.
Far from being some "undisclosed" secret, Kos' contract to help the Dean campaign learn to use the web effectively was public knowledge more than a year ago, as evidenced by this San Francisco Chronicle story from January 14, 2004:
Web forum shapes political thinking; Dean consultant in Berkeley builds 'blog' into influential tool

Daily Kos is a political Web log, or "blog," an online diary where diarists can post anything they want. The political blogosphere is divided into right and left halves, and this one is on the liberal side. It's run by a man who is a paid consultant for Democratic presidential hopeful Howard Dean...
Error # 2: "paid mouthpiece". Kos was not paid to be a mouthpiece for the Dean campaign. He was paid to help the Dean campaign learn how to use the web effectively -- something he was well-qualified to do, and which he appears to have done a good job of.

In the wake of recent scandals where conservative pundits were hired to push Bush programs and GOP talking points, there has been an effort to spin Kos's contract with the Dean campaign into something similar. You appear to have bought into that spin.

The nature of his contract is stated clearly by Kos, and confirmed by news stories such as the one cited above. I have not seen any evidence to contradict this. Zephyr Teachout (aka Zonkette) has recently begun claiming that in her mind the real reason for hiring Kos was to get him to write favorable stuff. If you can find a psychic to read her mind, perhaps we can confirm her claim; otherwise, there seems no evidence to support it.

Kos was pretty angry about the phony allegations, and has done a good job rebutting them. Here are some links:
Pundit wankery
Zephyr Can Go To Hell
What Did Zephyr Know and When Did She Know It?

Error # 3: Georgia10 is not Kos. I wrote that the story is being discussed and investigated at Daily Kos, which is a web forum community. You seem to have to have misunderstood that to say that it is being discussed and investigated by Kos (Markos Moulitsas Zuniga)

Kos is the man who started the community, similar to the way Randi started JREF. Kos writes daily commentaries which you can find and read in one section of the site. Then there is another section of the site where other people write various diaries, which become the opening posts of threads. The diaries I mentioned were started by Georgia10 -- who has never, as far as I know, received any money from the Dean campaign. A rough equivalent to Georgia10's work there would be RSLancaster's work regarding Kaz.

I think she (and many of the others taking part in this investigation) are doing an admirable job with this. Why not read one or more of the threads on Gannon that I linked to and judge the work on its merits?

Error # 4: "hypocracy". The word you intend, if I'm reading you correctly, is hypocrisy. [color=f7f7f7](One of the things that is so neat about Suezoled is that she can type hypocrisy correctly faster than most people can commit it.)[/color]
Sorry, I know it's not polite to point out typos and spelling errors, but this error appears so commonly that it's worth pointing out occasionally.
 
Nova Land said:
Originally posted by me: There has been a lot of discussion of, and investigation into, this story going on over at Daily Kos.

Response by WildCat :Oh boy! The (undisclosed) paid mouthpiece of the Howard Dean campaign is upset about this! I'm drowning in the hypocracy...

Error # 1: "(undisclosed)". I am puzzled how you made this particular error, since even the Slate article you cite acknowledges and posts a link to his disclosure that he had been hired by the Dean campaign. Here is that link, to the June 09, 2003 Daily Kos entry. (Please note the title, "Full Disclosure", which is a subtle clue to its contents.)There's more, but that gives the essence. I'd call that a pretty clear statement.

Kos not only disclosed this at the time of his hiring, he posted a disclosure prominently on his blog for the entire length of his contract with Dean. Here is a link to an archived screen-shot of the June 23, 2003 Daily Kos. Please note this is posted at the top left-hand of the screen, in plain text and plain sight.Far from being some "undisclosed" secret, Kos' contract to help the Dean campaign learn to use the web effectively was public knowledge more than a year ago, as evidenced by this San Francisco Chronicle story from January 14, 2004: Error # 2: "paid mouthpiece". Kos was not paid to be a mouthpiece for the Dean campaign. He was paid to help the Dean campaign learn how to use the web effectively -- something he was well-qualified to do, and which he appears to have done a good job of.

In the wake of recent scandals where conservative pundits were hired to push Bush programs and GOP talking points, there has been an effort to spin Kos's contract with the Dean campaign into something similar. You appear to have bought into that spin.

The nature of his contract is stated clearly by Kos, and confirmed by news stories such as the one cited above. I have not seen any evidence to contradict this. Zephyr Teachout (aka Zonkette) has recently begun claiming that in her mind the real reason for hiring Kos was to get him to write favorable stuff. If you can find a psychic to read her mind, perhaps we can confirm her claim; otherwise, there seems no evidence to support it.

Kos was pretty angry about the phony allegations, and has done a good job rebutting them. Here are some links:
Pundit wankery
Zephyr Can Go To Hell
What Did Zephyr Know and When Did She Know It?

Error # 3: Georgia10 is not Kos. I wrote that the story is being discussed and investigated at Daily Kos, which is a web forum community. You seem to have to have misunderstood that to say that it is being discussed and investigated by Kos (Markos Moulitsas Zuniga)

Kos is the man who started the community, similar to the way Randi started JREF. Kos writes daily commentaries which you can find and read in one section of the site. Then there is another section of the site where other people write various diaries, which become the opening posts of threads. The diaries I mentioned were started by Georgia10 -- who has never, as far as I know, received any money from the Dean campaign. A rough equivalent to Georgia10's work there would be RSLancaster's work regarding Kaz.

I think she (and many of the others taking part in this investigation) are doing an admirable job with this. Why not read one or more of the threads on Gannon that I linked to and judge the work on its merits?

Error # 4: "hypocracy". The word you intend, if I'm reading you correctly, is hypocrisy. [color=f7f7f7](One of the things that is so neat about Suezoled is that she can type hypocrisy correctly faster than most people can commit it.)[/color]
Sorry, I know it's not polite to point out typos and spelling errors, but this error appears so commonly that it's worth pointing out occasionally.
I really need to stop posting at 7 AM.

As for the spelling error, can a hypocritical bureaucracy be called
a hypocracy? :p
 
*Ahem*

The Democratic Party is partnering with MoveOn.org, People for the American Way, Campaign for America's Future, and dozens of other groups representing millions of Americans to organize a massive public mobilization.

DNC.org

Guess that didn't work, either. :D
 
Can someone show me where Democratic leaders call social security "rock solid?" Sounds like these guys lie before they can even get the question out.

As I said before, once I spot the lie, I don't bother to read further.
 
peptoabysmal said:
... Guess that didn't work, either.
I have no idea how the site you linked to relates to Ladewig's topic about a dubious "reporter" for a dubious "news agency" being given credentials permitting him to attend White House press conferences (even though, it turns out, he is using a made-up name). Perhaps you could explain the connection?

Here is a link to the current diary on Daily Kos about what they are now calling PropaGannon (having decided that is a little classier, and less cliche, than GannonGate):.
The Spectacular Rise of the Miraculous Mr. Gannon

Talon News registers its domain name March 29, 2003. The site goes live April 1, 2003, and on April 3, 2003, the pseudonomic "Jeff Gannon," with no journalism experience and with a $50, two-day seminar at a right-wing propaganda institute under his belt, is seated four rows away from where the most powerful - and most guarded - person on the planet makes his pronouncements.

Heady times indeed. Not to mention the fastest background check in the history of labyrinthine bureaucracy. Perhaps the speed of that background accounts for the fact that our hero doesn't have to use his real name and seems to have sprung up as a glorious, immaculately conceived creation of the right wing less than a year before...

For those who prefer not to turn to Daily Kos for their information on this, the story is starting to get some attention from mainstream sources such as this story in today's Boston Globe:
White House-friendly reporter under scrutiny

By Charlie Savage and Alan Wirzbicki

The Bush administration has provided White House media credentials to a man who has virtually no journalistic background, asks softball questions to the president and his spokesman in the midst of contentious news conferences, and routinely reprints long passages verbatim from official press releases as original news articles on his website.

Jeff Gannon calls himself the White House correspondent for TalonNews.com, a website that says it is "committed to delivering accurate, unbiased news coverage to our readers." It is operated by a Texas-based Republican Party delegate and political activist who also runs GOPUSA.com, a website that touts itself as "bringing the conservative message to America"...
 
Nova Land said:
I have no idea how the site you linked to relates to Ladewig's topic about a dubious "reporter" for a dubious "news agency" being given credentials permitting him to attend White House press conferences (even though, it turns out, he is using a made-up name). Perhaps you could explain the connection?

Cheap shot. It just seems funny to me that after that last election year and all of the shenanigans of the Democrats and their media friends that this is just trite. It was hard for me to watch the Today Show without losing my breakfast last year.

That being said, yes I think there should be a distance between journalists and politicians, particularly where tax dollars are being spent.
 

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