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The Colin McEnroe Show on Connecticut Public Radio hosted an all truther panel on April 18, audio link here. (Hat Tip to SLC blog. I've also made a video version of the show which will still be available if the audio link expires.)

The guests were Cheryl Curtiss, JoAnne Bauer, Manny Badillo and Tony Szamboti. Badillo and Szamboti have been discussed on this forum. Curtiss is identified by the show as "the host of "9/11 Wake-Up Call" on WWUH and WESU and founding member of Journalists and Other Media Professionals for 9/11Truth." I believe JoAnne Bauer is actually Joan Bauer.

The show was called Sifting Through The Rubble For The Truth About 9/11. Here's a statement from McEnroe about the show:

Let me be clear: I believe 9/11 was the work of al-Qaeda. I believe they hijacked planes and flew them into buildings.

Let me also be clear: I believe there was a concentrated, organized effort at the highest levels of American power to mislead the American public about the fundamental nature of 9/11 and that said effort was largely successful.

I'm referring to the notion that Saddam Hussein was partly or largely responsible for the attack, a belief that was embraced by more than 50 percent of Americans in the years following the 9/11attacks. I also believe the CIA, probably abetted by the White House, stonewalled the commission on at least one major aspect of its investigation.

The reason I believe this is because the commission chairs, Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, said so. Today, you'll meet people whose 9/11 doubts are greater and graver.
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I'm not sure what McEnroe talking about in the bolded statements. Not to speak well about George Bush, but wasn't 9/11 one of the few things Bush didn't pin on Saddam Hussein? :confused:
 
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Walter Ego said:
The Colin McEnroe Show on Connecticut Public Radio hosted an all truther panel on April 18, audio link here. (Hat Tip to SLC blog. I've also made a video version of the show which will still be available if the audio link expires.)

The guests were Cheryl Curtiss, JoAnne Bauer, Manny Badillo and Tony Szamboti. Badillo and Szamboti have been discussed on this forum. Curtiss is identified by the show as "the host of "9/11 Wake-Up Call" on WWUH and WESU and founding member of Journalists and Other Media Professionals for 9/11Truth." I believe JoAnne Bauer is actually Joan Bauer.

The show was called Sifting Through The Rubble For The Truth About 9/11. Here's a statement from McEnroe about the show:



I'm not sure what McEnroe talking about in the bolded statements. Not to speak well about George Bush, but wasn't 9/11 one of the few things Bush didn't pin on Saddam Hussein? :confused:
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You're right. The Bush Administration maintained that there were ties between Hussein's regime and Al Qaeda, but did not say he had an operational part in the 9/11 attacks.

They did push the relationship idea quite hard in their efforts to sell the invasion of Iraq, and maintained they couldn't risk Saddam giving weapons of mass destruction to a terrorist group in light of 9/11. So while Bush would say, if asked, that Hussein wasn't behind the attacks, his administration's communications relentlessly paired the two in order to build public support for the war. If people got the wrong idea, the White House didn't do a lot to correct their perception.

It's difficult to say if Bush and company meant to mislead the public, or if they mislead themselves and brought us along. They came into office with a strong belief in the need to remove Saddam and 9/11 sure didn't lessen that belief. From hearing these people talk about their experiences during that time, it seems to me that they were as traumatized by the attacks as the rest of us, and that it affected their perceptions for the worse. I particularly remember the counter-terrorism czar, Richard Clarke's description of Defense Secretary Rumsfeld's almost immediate focus on Iraq in the wake of the attacks.

I get the impression their biases got the better of them, and they weren't doing enough critical thinking when they made their decisions. I also understand that they shortcut the traditional national security decision making process, including safeguards that help reduce the chances of group think.

I understand Bush is pretty candid about his decisions in his memoir, but I haven't got around to reading it yet.
 
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You're right. The Bush Administration maintained that there were ties between Hussein's regime and Al Qaeda, but did not say he had an operational part in the 9/11 attacks.

They did push the relationship idea quite hard in their efforts to sell the invasion of Iraq, and maintained they couldn't risk Saddam giving weapons of mass destruction to a terrorist group in light of 9/11. So while Bush would say, if asked, that Hussein wasn't behind the attacks, his administration's communications relentlessly paired the two in order to build public support for the war. If people got the wrong idea, the White House didn't do a lot to correct their perception.

It's difficult to say if Bush and company meant to mislead the public, or if they mislead themselves and brought us along. They came into office with a strong belief in the need to remove Saddam and 9/11 sure didn't lessen that belief. From hearing these people talk about their experiences during that time, it seems to me that they were as traumatized by the attacks as the rest of us, and that it affected their perceptions for the worse. I particularly remember the counter-terrorism czar, Richard Clarke's description of Defense Secretary Rumsfeld's almost immediate focus on Iraq in the wake of the attacks.

I get the impression their biases got the better of them, and they weren't doing enough critical thinking when they made their decisions. I also understand that they shortcut the traditional national security decision making process, including safeguards that help reduce the chances of group think.

I understand Bush is pretty candid about his decisions in his memoir, but I haven't got around to reading it yet.
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Yes, that's the way I remember it. The administration was pushing "ties" between Saddam and Al Qaeda, none of which were actually proved, but never claimed Saddam was directly responsible for the 9/11 attacks.

Of course among segments of the general public in the U.S. (mostly conservatives who get their world view from Fox News and Rush Limbaugh) this translated to "Saddam did 9/11."
 
Badillo & Szamboti on Connecticut NPR

NYCCAN AE911T BuildingWhat Remember Building 7 was advertising this show.

Manny Badillo and Tony Szamboti of the Remember Building 7 campaign will be on the Colin McEnroe show on WNPR, National Public Radio’s Connecticut affiliate. They will be joined by Cheryl Curtis and JoAnne Bauer of Connecticut 9/11 Truth, who helped organize the recent Investigate Building 7 conference at the University of Hartford.
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http://www.cpbn.org/program/colin-mcenroe-show#

Episode page here: http://www.yourpublicmedia.org/node/12282

The producer disassociated himself from the episode. The host doesn't believe in an inside job, and asks some interesting questions, but he also gives the CTists enough rope to hang themselves.

Download podcast here:
http://cptv.vo.llnwd.net/o2/ypmwebcontent/Commodore Skahill/Colin McEnroe Show 04-18-2011.mp3

I like one of the comments:

""In reading through the comments I am heartened by how many individuals are responding positively to this show." That's because they are all truthers to begin with, drawn like moths to a flame. I did a quick search on "Colin McEnroe" and "9/11" and the show was linked on every truther mill out there. It's your traveling echo chamber not a groundswell of public support."
 
Walter Ego said:
Yes, that's the way I remember it. The administration was pushing "ties" between Saddam and Al Qaeda, none of which were actually proved, but never claimed Saddam was directly responsible for the 9/11 attacks.
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IIRC, didn't Saddam praise the attacks and publicly state that terrorists were welcome in his country?
 
Sabretooth said:
IIRC, didn't Saddam praise the attacks and publicly state that terrorists were welcome in his country?
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Probably, I was talking about the "Saddam did 9/11" meme, i.e. that Saddam was directly responsible for the attacks. Even the Bush administration didn't think they could get away with pushing that one.. Given all the coverage of the evils of Saddam's regime in the press coverage during the lead up to the Iraq war, however, a lot of gullible American did buy that idea.
 
Walter Ego said:
The guests were Cheryl Curtiss, JoAnne Bauer, Manny Badillo and Tony Szamboti. Badillo and Szamboti have been discussed on this forum. Curtiss is identified by the show as "the host of "9/11 Wake-Up Call" on WWUH and WESU and founding member of Journalists and Other Media Professionals for 9/11Truth." I believe JoAnne Bauer is actually Joan Bauer.
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I don't think this is correct. That Joan Bauer sounds sensible, and doesn't link to any kook sites. Note the spelling at Journalists and other Media Professionals for 9-11 Troof.

JoAnne Bauer, Hartford, CT, USA.
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That JoAnne Bauer is the one who started connecting some pretty divergent dots on the radio program, as I noted at SLC:

But without a doubt, the best part of the current interview comes when "Frank" calls in about 38:10, and asks why with everything else going on in the world, do they focus on 9-11? The response from one of the Connecticut Truthers, Joanne Bauer, is mind-boggling. She believes that all of these issues are interconnected. The first thing she brings up (two "illegal" wars) you can argue is connected to 9-11, certainly. But the next thing is "financial disparities between the rich and the poor" and the thing after that is that Hartford (CT) is one of the poorest cities in America. "This is clearly a result of what happened that day."
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