Trump's White House makes a solid case for socialist policies

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I have posted other links about the new White House report on Socialism in the Economics, and Finance thread, but I think that this one belongs here:

Amid hysterical comparisons between Sen. Bernie Sanders and Mao Zedong, the White House unwittingly makes a solid case for socialist policies
From its heavy-handed comparisons between mild-mannered democratic socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders and militant communist revolutionary Mao Zedong to its bizarre assertion that the Scandinavian economic model is a failure due to the high weekly costs of owning a pickup truck in Finland and Sweden (seriously), a White House attack on socialism was roundly mocked almost as soon as it was released on Monday, with informed critics arguing that the report reads as if it was plagiarized from a college freshman with a serious Ayn Rand obsession.
Buried in ”Hilariously Stupid” White House Attack on Socialism – An Accidentally Strong Argument for Medicare for All Common Dreams, Oct. 23, 2018)
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Just ONE polling station in a whole city??! I read some excuses like a second one downtown being available in office hours. But even counting that, that's way too few. Should be every school in the city limits, and open on the weekend.
 
PhantomWolf said:
Not seen a lot of conversation about this one...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...polling-place-voter-suppression-voting-rights

Come on, this isn't even subtle. Firstly, just 1 polling place for 13,000 residents? And then you move it 2.5 miles outside of the city? This is just insane that it has been allowed to happen.
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I think the saddest part was when Rachel Maddow had some reporters go to the Civics Center in question, and having a hard time finding the construction that was supposed to make it unsuitable for use as a polling station.

Oh, and the Ford County clerk in the article? When the ACLU of Kansas sent her a letter, asking her office to help publicise a hotline people could call if they had issues voting, she instead of forwarded it to Kris Kobach, adding a 'LOL' as a comment.
 
Here in the UK local schools and community halls are very easily converted into polling places for our elections. There tends to be one every few blocks in a city. We still use paper ballots rather than machines but I would have thought in these technological days small automatic voting machines could be put in to a room one day and removed the next? This one voting place for a city of 13,000 people just seems crazy!
 
Parsman said:
Here in the UK local schools and community halls are very easily converted into polling places for our elections. There tends to be one every few blocks in a city. We still use paper ballots rather than machines but I would have thought in these technological days small automatic voting machines could be put in to a room one day and removed the next? This one voting place for a city of 13,000 people just seems crazy!
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Not crazy if your goal is to disenfranchise voters.
 
Not sure how it's the subject of the thread.........

...........but surely there should be an independent body checking on things like access to polling stations against a national criteria which could easily include a formula for 1 polling station per X voters, or X polling stations per electoral district. Christ, if that sort of thing was tried here there would be official inquiries, court cases, and a national outcry. Don't you people take democracy seriously?
 
MikeG said:
Not sure how it's the subject of the thread.........

...........but surely there should be an independent body checking on things like access to polling stations against a national criteria which could easily include a formula for 1 polling station per X voters, or X polling stations per electoral district. Christ, if that sort of thing was tried here there would be official inquiries, court cases, and a national outcry. Don't you people take democracy seriously?
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Not only do they take seriously, GOP politicians are downright terrified of it.

They fight it every chance they get.
 
MikeG said:
Not sure how it's the subject of the thread.........

...........but surely there should be an independent body checking on things like access to polling stations against a national criteria which could easily include a formula for 1 polling station per X voters, or X polling stations per electoral district. Christ, if that sort of thing was tried here there would be official inquiries, court cases, and a national outcry. Don't you people take democracy seriously?
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To be fair, the lack of outcry about this specific thing right now might be because the US is in a kind of perpetual crisis, with the president bombarding the population with things to be outraged about so that it's hard to give due attention to any one particular issue. It's like a particularly vicious school bully -- it's hard to focus on any one case of abuse when he's an a-hole all the time.

But yes, it is one of the things that has me, too, scared for the US at the moment, and there should be a much bigger outcry.

I'm only hoping this will be one of the things that comes back to bite the GOP, hard, in the *** further down the road.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
America's most famous Anti-Socialist is also it's most famous Anti-Theist:

Ayn Rand

Oddly enough, no Evangelical seems to have any problem with her.
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Er, have you done a web search on evangelical views on Ayn Rand?

There are rather a number of articles concerned with whether a Christian can also be a follower of Rand. Certainly, some affirm it, but the fact that they have to do so suggests that evangelicals recognize there's an issue to discuss.
 
phiwum said:
Er, have you done a web search on evangelical views on Ayn Rand?

There are rather a number of articles concerned with whether a Christian can also be a follower of Rand. Certainly, some affirm it, but the fact that they have to do so suggests that evangelicals recognize there's an issue to discuss.
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GIven that Rand was not only an rather militant atheist, but thought that Christ's moral teachings (which a great many non belivers would approve of) were evil,I have hard time accepting how a Christian could approve of Rand.
If it's about defending capitalism, there are much more capable defenders of free markets around, who do not have Rand's baggage.
 
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