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Trayvon Case Gotcha Down? Beat Whitey!

Cainkane1 said:
This isn't a troll post its news. In 1992 the same thing happened in Atlanta Ga after the Rodney incident except worse. The victim was beated and trampled on because he was white and the assailants were mad becuase of what had happened on the other side of the country. The man was left with permanent neuro damage and no arrests were ever made.

In a place called underground Atlanta so many whites were assaulted for no reason that white people quit going and it closed down. No arrests were made there either.
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Piedmont was impassable after the Rodney King thing.

Atlanta is depressingly racist. This is probably why I'm moving there in a couple of weeks to try to make a baby with a Black girlfriend. Anything for a weird life.
 
BStrong said:
Kind of like the white guy that murdered a Sikh after 9/11 because the murderer blamed "Towel Heads" for the attack.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Balbir_Singh_Sodhi
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I would say very much like that. No race is immuned to that kind of targeting. It's sad but something I never noticed until I read it in a book; now it seems to ring so true to me. Every group is defined by their worst members. Hopefully, the majority of us can rise above it. Two black guys targeting a white guy and harming him because of a completely unrelated event does not define the state of mind of all black people; the same way a white guy murdering a Sikh because of Islamaphobia does not define the state of mind of all white people.
 
sgtbaker said:
I would say very much like that. No race is immuned to that kind of targeting. It's sad but something I never noticed until I read it in a book; now it seems to ring so true to me. Every group is defined by their worst members. Hopefully, the majority of us can rise above it. Two black guys targeting a white guy and harming him because of a completely unrelated event does not define the state of mind of all black people; the same way a white guy murdering a Sikh because of Islamaphobia does not define the state of mind of all white people.
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Exactly.

But individuals continue to use the worst case behaviors of individuals to define groups.

It's a touchstone amongst conservatives that (fill in the blank) are lazy, criminally inclined, hostile to any conservative thought, and are immune from prosecution to boot.

At the same time, there are liberals who will assert with a straight face that (fill in the blank) are greedy, violent, selfish, hostile to any liberal thought, and since they control everything, are immune from prosecution.

I find myself in hot water when I tell people that Rush Limbaugh and Michael Moore are two sides of the same coin.

Having said that, there are differences in how white on black racist motivated crimes are discussed and portrayed in the media and how black on white racist motivated crimes are reported - one is quite rightly condemmed where the other is glossed over or ignored.
 
BStrong said:
Exactly.

But individuals continue to use the worst case behaviors of individuals to define groups.

It's a touchstone amongst conservatives that (fill in the blank) are lazy, criminally inclined, hostile to any conservative thought, and 1) are immune from prosecution to boot.

I find myself in hot water when I tell people that Rush Limbaugh and Michael Moore are two sides of the same coin.
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Liberals don't like unpleasant facts.

Having said that, there are differences in how white on black racist motivated crimes are discussed and portrayed in the media and how black on white racist motivated crimes are reported - one is quite rightly condemmed where the other is glossed over or ignored.
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Too much Black on white to be newsworthy.

Re 1): No, just that too many too often use jail/prison time to become more violent and sociopathic felons.
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thaiboxerken said:
That guy should definitely be punished for hate crime.
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And he is. So, I guess the system worked in this case.

He probably would have been better off if he had just said he wanted to rob the man, but that doesn't explain why they beat him up even after they took his wallet.
 
Cainkane1 said:
In a place called underground Atlanta so many whites were assaulted for no reason that white people quit going and it closed down. No arrests were made there either.
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OT: That's sad. I really enjoyed it when I was there. Is it still closed? If so, any possibility of a resurrection? Although that word is probably not the best to use for an underground facility.
 
BStrong said:
I find myself in hot water when I tell people that Rush Limbaugh and Michael Moore are two sides of the same coin.
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I refer to Noam Limbaugh and Rush Chomsky and similarly get into trouble. I have a hard time telling them apart. One is fat and a linguist, and the other is skinny and old. Or is it the other way around? Which one plays golf at MIT?

At least Canadian Bacon is funny and somewhat redeems Moore.
 
Wait, I want to know what straw reaction I was supposed to give?
 
sgtbaker said:
I would say very much like that. No race is immuned to that kind of targeting. It's sad but something I never noticed until I read it in a book; now it seems to ring so true to me. Every group is defined by their worst members. Hopefully, the majority of us can rise above it. Two black guys targeting a white guy and harming him because of a completely unrelated event does not define the state of mind of all black people; the same way a white guy murdering a Sikh because of Islamaphobia does not define the state of mind of all white people.
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So true. No doubt much of it can be attributed to in-group out-group bias, though it does seem whites have the benefit of what I call multi-tiered stereotypes (i.e. uncouth poor, wholesome middleclass, and snooty uperclass) while other groups can be viewed more monolithically by their unsavory members. Just an observation.


BStrong said:
Exactly.

But individuals continue to use the worst case behaviors of individuals to define groups.

It's a touchstone amongst conservatives that (fill in the blank) are lazy, criminally inclined, hostile to any conservative thought, and are immune from prosecution to boot.

At the same time, there are liberals who will assert with a straight face that (fill in the blank) are greedy, violent, selfish, hostile to any liberal thought, and since they control everything, are immune from prosecution.

I find myself in hot water when I tell people that Rush Limbaugh and Michael Moore are two sides of the same coin.

Having said that, there are differences in how white on black racist motivated crimes are discussed and portrayed in the media and how black on white racist motivated crimes are reported - one is quite rightly condemmed where the other is glossed over or ignored.
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Both may participate in partisan hackery but I assure you Rush Limbaugh takes the cake when it comes to obnoxious, acid spewing vitriol.
 
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Derail - Correction

Cainkane1 said:
This isn't a troll post its news.
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Maybe the OP... but not the below....

In a place called underground Atlanta so many whites were assaulted for no reason that white people quit going and it closed down. No arrests were made there either.
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Why are you passing off easily refuted urban legend for fact? Underground is not closed and did not close down after the post-King-verdict riots (which afflicted serious damages and losses). The place has been a white elephant for thirty-five years. It only had a five or six year run when it was profitable and successful. But it's still there and arguably while there were obviously damages due to the riots, it wasn't making money before that and continued to not make money after. Unfortunately the merchants and tenants in the complex seem to be relying too much on Atlanta gov't largesse. There has to be a way to make an area that attracts over five million visitors a year into a success. Either the city/developers are charging too much for the real estate or they've just got a whole bunch of retailers who are clueless.
 
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Juniversal said:
Aggravated assault is the most common type of violent crime in this country.
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Perhaps you are using some unduly restrictive definition of "violent crime", but in my experience simple assault (i.e. assault without a deadly weapon or serious bodily injury) is much more common than aggravated assault.
 
BStrong said:
Kind of like the white guy that murdered a Sikh after 9/11 because the murderer blamed "Towel Heads" for the attack.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Balbir_Singh_Sodhi
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Yeah. It's a little known fact that there were four similarly motivated revenge killings by Christians of various brownish people in the US since the day after 9/11, and one was of an actual Muslim. Plus, of course, a Sikh, a Copt, and a non-Copt Egyptian Christian.

Also, of course, a minimum of 35 similarly or complementarily motivated revenge killings by Muslims during the same period of time.
 
Juniversal said:
So true. No doubt much of it can be attributed to in-group out-group bias, though it does seem whites have the benefit of what I call multi-tiered stereotypes (i.e. uncouth poor, wholesome middleclass, and snooty uperclass) while other groups can be viewed more monolithically by their unsavory members. Just an observation.
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Comes from being so numerous, I guess. We have to specialize.

I'm really disappointed about the paucity of good names for white people. White trash? Cracker? Honkey? Gray? Ofay? These are pretty laughable. At least Jews have some good ones.
 
When I get to the bottom I go back to the top of the slide
Where I stop and I turn and I go for a ride
Till I get to the bottom and I see you again.
 
TsarBomba said:
Perhaps you are using some unduly restrictive definition of "violent crime", but in my experience simple assault (i.e. assault without a deadly weapon or serious bodily injury) is much more common than aggravated assault.
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You're right. I was using assault as defined by the FBI statistics and aggravated assault is the only assault category they use in their stats.
 
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