Torture: Red Cross, Amnesty International

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Here are the results of a little digging. Obviously we should trust our "fearless leaders" over any of this evil 'left-wing conspiracy' talk about so-called 'human rights' from organizations such as the International Red Cross and Amnesty International, but it seems to me the U.S. has taken a historic event that yielded nearly universal sympathy and support, and turned its self single-mindedly into the evil empire of the 21st century.

Wow, way to go!

Amnesty International's Iraq Page
http://web.amnesty.org/pages/irq-110504-action-eng

http://news.amnesty.org/mav/index/ENGAMR510772004
USA: Pattern of brutality and cruelty -- war crimes at Abu Ghraib
Despite claims this week by Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld to be "stunned" by abuses in Abu Ghraib, and that these were an "exception" and "not a pattern or practice", Amnesty International has presented consistent allegations of brutality and cruelty by US agents against detainees at the highest levels of the US Government, including the White House, the Department of Defense, and the State Department for the past two years.
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United States of America
Amnesty International's concerns regarding post September 11 detentions in the USA
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/engAMR510442002


http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/engAMR510532002
• transferred and held people in conditions that may amount to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment, and that violate other minimum standards relating to detention;
• refused to inform people in its custody of all their rights;
• refused to grant people in its custody access to legal counsel, including during questioning by US and other authorities;
• refused to grant people in its custody access to the courts to challenge the lawfulness of their detention;
• undermined the presumption of innocence through a pattern of public commentary on the presumed guilt of the people in its custody in Guantánamo Bay;
• failed to facilitate promptly communications with or grant access to family members;
• undermined due process and extradition protections in cases of people taken into custody outside Afghanistan and transferred to Guantánamo Bay;
• threatened to select foreign nationals for trial before military commissions – executive bodies lacking clear independence from the executive and with the power to hand down death sentences, and without the right of appeal to an independent and impartial court;
• raised the prospect of indefinite detention without charge or trial, or continued detention after acquittal, or repatriation that may threaten the principle of non-refoulement;
• failed to show that it has conducted an impartial and thorough investigation into allegations of human rights violations against Afghan villagers detained by US soldiers.
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The Red Cross's Iraq Page
http://www.icrc.org/Web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/htmlall/iraq?OpenDocument

Protecting life and dignity: "No war is above international law"

Iraq: ICRC explains position over detention report and treatment of prisoners
http://www.icrc.org/Web/Eng/siteeng0.nsf/iwpList322/7EE8626890D74F76C1256E8D005D3861

How the ICRC transmitted the report to the detaining authorities:
The report in question was handed to Mr. Paul Bremer and Lt-Gen. Ricardo Sanchez in February 2004; various aspects of its contents had been discussed with the Coalition authorities at different times and at different levels during 2003 and included in documents submitted to them; "I won't go into the details but ... they don't concern only issues of water and food but also clearly of treatment."

On feedback from the authorities and the impact of the ICRC's reporting:
On a number of occasions the ICRC was assured that its findings were being taken very seriously, and that measures would be taken; in later visits there were indications that some of the material problems had been addressed; however, more remained to be done, particularly given that "we were dealing here with a broader pattern and a system, as opposed to individual acts..."

On questions of treatment raised in the leaked report:
Some of the elements the ICRC found "were tantamount to torture.... I think you will have different definitions of what torture amounts to; what we feel, and I think what you see from the photographs...is that there were clearly instances of degrading and inhumane treatment."

On the dilemma of confidentiality and maintaining access to prisoners:
The extracts of the leaked report shows how the ICRC approaches detention problems; "there were situations that remained unacceptable and difficult and there were others that were worked on – and that is the kind of approach that we have.... in terms of reputation it is certainly valued by many people – first and foremost by the people we visit..." The ICRC believed that its visits made a difference – "Had we not [thought so], we would maybe have come to another conclusion and taken other measures..."


http://www.hrw.org/campaigns/torture.htm
And another one...
 
You're forgetting that Iraqi's cut the head off that American. They are murderers! Therefor anything we do to any Iraqi anywhere is justified!:rolleyes:
 
Renfield said:
You're forgetting that Iraqi's cut the head off that American. They are murderers! Therefor anything we do to any Iraqi anywhere is justified!:rolleyes:
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Don't forget: so did our 'good friends', the Saudis.
 
not sure about the robustness of this information contained with in

Amnesty International report
charges that in 2002, the Bush Administration violated the spirit of its own export policy and approved the sale of equipment implicated in torture to Yemen, Jordan, Morocco and Thailand, despite the countries' documented use of such weapons to punish, mistreat and inflict torture on prisoners. The US is also alleged to have handed suspects in the 'war on terror' to the same countries.


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In 2001, the US approved three sales of electro-shock weapons to Turkey, despite continued widespread use of such technology to torture. In a 2002 case, a 17-year-old schoolgirl who had been detained for distributing leaflets calling for Kurdish education was stripped, threatened with rape and tortured with electric shocks to her feet, legs and stomach.
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Torture is commonplace in the world; has the Bush adminstration contributed to cruel and unusual punishment?
 
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