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Tories to start running down the NHS, again!

Darat

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How long before we get back to having to plan your sickness a month in advance to get an appointment with your GP? (And that is not an exaggeration, my mother's GP's practice during the 90s ran with a minimum of a month wait for appointments).

Plus no more guarantee of your treatment starting within 18 weeks, anyone want to start a sweepstake for how long it will take for waiting times to get back to the old Tory standards?

This has nothing to do with cost savings - it is ideologically motivated.
 
I'd be smug and point out the very obvious geographical restriction on that item BUT:

1. NHS Scotland is planning shed a lot of jobs as part of a major efficiency exercise, and

2. Any Westiminster cuts will inevitably have an impact on the Scottish block grant and may force something similar on us.


ETA: Wasn't it the Tories who first brought in performance targets, though?
 
anti socialized health-care folks showing up in 3.... 2..... 1.....
 
I may have jumped the gun somewhat, my excuse is that the original report had a lot less detail in it....
 
I'm suprised how open some Tories have been on sections of their cut programme being ideological.

For example, responding to the rather sensible argument that the Sheffield Forgemasters project was a loan that was to be paid back with interest, a Tory on the Politics Show yesterday let slip that it was axed was because the Government shouldn't be in the business of granting loans to these companies.
 
I forgot the general response to OP's such as Darat's:

"Blame Labour.. record deficit.. Brown's checkbook.. promises they couldn't keep"

Sad thing is, it's not unaffordable. If the Tories dropped their minuture marriage tax cut they could afford to keep forgemasters. They could also have kept pro-employment projects like the future job fund if they had kept the NI increase.

I don't know how Lib Dem supporters feel now. Every one of them I have ever met identifies themselves as left wing. Probably someone who would vote for Foot, believe in the state and favour taxes on the wealthy. Seeing Danny Alexander deliver those cuts must have been brutal for supporters of his party.
 
As a former NHS employee, I can tell you that the running down of the NHS is not a result of the current administration, it is the result of the culture of the staff therein.

Why is MRSA so prevalent? Because nurses, doctors, physios and occupational therapists routinely ignore infection control mandates.

Why do so many nurses suffer back injuries? Because if you haven't got a bad back you obviously aren't working hard enough, so nurses refuse to use equipment provided and designed to protect the mover and the movee.

Why is the NHS massively in debt? Because HCA's and nurses waste resources hand over fist on the front lines.

I could go on.

The man sitting in Number 10 has no control over these things.
 
Naddig74 said:
Why do so many nurses suffer back injuries? Because if you haven't got a bad back you obviously aren't working hard enough, so nurses refuse to use equipment provided and designed to protect the mover and the movee.
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Seriously?
 
The Forgemasters loan only made sense IF the UK and most of the world was going to make a huge investment in nucleur power as the piece of kit they wanted to buy is used (only use?) for making the pressure vessels for reactors.

Steve
 
uk_dave said:
Seriously?
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Seriously.

ETA: I've seen elderly people suffer fatal injuries because they were moved by nurses who felt that going to get the hoist was a 'waste of time.' The sound of an octogenarians skull hitting concrete is a sound that can never be unheard.
 
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Seismosaurus said:
What ideology would that be?
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Being Tory meanies obviously.

It couldn't possibly be the result of only having a fixed amount of cash and a lot of things to spend it on.

ps - as I understand it from this thread:
Things your party does = done for the good of the country
Things the other party does = ideologically motivated
 
Undesired Walrus said:
I'm suprised how open some Tories have been on sections of their cut programme being ideological.

For example, responding to the rather sensible argument that the Sheffield Forgemasters project was a loan that was to be paid back with interest, a Tory on the Politics Show yesterday let slip that it was axed was because the Government shouldn't be in the business of granting loans to these companies.
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But it was tories that passed the Poor Employment Act back in 1817.
 
oggiesnr said:
The Forgemasters loan only made sense IF the UK and most of the world was going to make a huge investment in nucleur power as the piece of kit they wanted to buy is used (only use?) for making the pressure vessels for reactors.

Steve
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IIRC, the US seems to be doing just that. I've heard that Japan is happy they can step into the shoes this project left vacant.
 
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