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Tony Blair - False Memory Syndrome?

Matabiri

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Not sure whether to have put this here or Skepticism, but...

Watching Tony Blair perform on various news shows, it seems to me that he firmly believes what he's saying about the lead-up to the invasion of Iraq, despite having to deny any previous equivocation and say that any evidence to the contrary is "taken out of context".

Does anyone else think that he's convinced himself that he really did never mislead anyone, and that he truly did present the facts properly, and that this conviction (rather than knowing he's being caught out) is the reason for his increasing irritation with the questions?
 
He sounds to me like he relied on sources for his decisions that proved to be very unreliable, but that he simply can't go back now and apologise for publicly. He's not stupid (at least, I don't think he is) so it's more like wishful thinking and repapering the walls than False Memory Syndrome.
 
Matabiri said:
Not sure whether to have put this here or Skepticism, but...

Watching Tony Blair perform on various news shows, it seems to me that he firmly believes what he's saying about the lead-up to the invasion of Iraqdespite having to deny any previous equivocation and say that any evidence to the contrary is "taken out of context".

Does anyone else think that he's convinced himself that he really did never mislead anyone, and that he truly did present the facts properly, and that this conviction (rather than knowing he's being caught out) is the reason for his increasing irritation with the questions?
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It seems to me that he's convinced himself he's much better off saying anything, however untruthful, which will help him win the election than admitting that he was wrong.

The man's a toad.
 
Zep said:
He sounds to me like he relied on sources for his decisions that proved to be very unreliable, but that he simply can't go back now and apologise for publicly.
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But the evidence now suggests that he was fully informed at the time that it was unreliable, or if not, utterly (and so incompetently) failed to inquire as to how reliable it was. As you say, he's not stupid, so I'd suspect the former.
 
I'm sure that he was fully aware of the quality of intelligence he was receiving and chose to use that which backed up his case. Regardless of which party was in power it was in Britain's "Best Interests" to tag along with the U.S. Everything else follows from this basic premise.

IMO he is fronting it out, he knows the intelligence was shaky but he cannot admit to the public that he chose to believe the intelligence which backed up his inevitable course of action.

I don't think he's sufficiently self-deluded to actually believe himself.
 
Matabiri said:
Does anyone else think that he's convinced himself that he really did never mislead anyone, and that he truly did present the facts properly, and that this conviction (rather than knowing he's being caught out) is the reason for his increasing irritation with the questions?
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Don't forget party politics. It's possible he's trying to "take one for the team," by focusing the criticism towards him in person rather than on the government as a whole. A facade of stubborn denial might be one way to achieve that; especially if the rest of his party doesn't make any show of supporting him.

(Of course, I'm speculating here. I don't really know enough about UK politics to make an informed evaluation.)
 
I trust Tony Bliar as much as I hate getting a blowjob.

The man is scum. He used a 12 year old student's essay to justify taking us to war. Nobody does that by accident unless they are a moron and Tony aint stoopid.

Scum. Evil Scum.

And half of you tossers are going to vote for him tomorrow!

I dont know how any Labour-ite can sleep.
 
Jon_in_london said:
I trust Tony Bliar as much as I dont hate getting a blowjob.
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Are you sure you have the right number of negatives there?

Unless you really dislike blowjobs...
 
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