Tommy Chong gets 9 Months while Rush roams free.

It's called hypocrisy. It's about all the government's good for.
 
Tmy said:
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/9/11/203112/968

That wacky war on drugs. Tommy Chong (ledgendary stoner) gets 9 months for selling bongs. WHo wants to bet that Rush gets nothing, even if he has distribution amounts of Oxicotin.

If its Ok to have medicinal pot, why is illegal to sell bongs??
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Oh but you see there's a big moral difference between a poor millionaire right wing media mogul and this terrorist supporting harmless stoner.
 
subgenius said:
The DEA and the judge are the real criminals here. What weasels.
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9 times out of 10 the government is the criminal.
 
Tommy Chong has gotten 9 months in prison for selling bongs. Bongs! That's like getting in trouble for selling spoons!
Meanwhile, if it turns out that Rush was buying and/or selling illegally obtained painkillers, he will most likely get nothing.

And if Rush was such an upstanding guy, why is he only NOW making public statements about his drug addiction? Did you know he has been to rehab TWO other times? Did you know he has been addicted to OxyContin for YEARS? No, you didn't, because Rush covered it up.

Chong on the other hand has NEVER made it a secret that he loves the pot. Look at his movies, his High Times cover appearences, etc.

What a double standard. I mean, in some states it's LEGAL to have pot if it's prescribed. Just like OxyContin. And ILLEGAL if it's not prescribed. Just like OxyContin.
 
See you guy miss the distinction. A quote I read earlier (don't remember where) goes ". . .anyone can get hooked on crack. It takes class to get hooked on pills".

See it isn't just about money (Chong is quite well off), it's about how much you've said you hate drugs and drug users in the past. Chong is (obviously) pro-drug use, therefore he is an evil man for which nine months doesn't come close to making up for his sins. While Rush says that the fact that more minorities are in jail for drug offenses is certainly unfair, but that doesn't mean we should lighten up on the minorities. Oh, no we should go out and get those whites who are getting away with drugs.
See Chong doens't think he has a drug problem and will say so in public while Rush doesn't think he has a drug problem but will say whatever it takes to keep his fat arse out of prison.
What really gets me is the people saying Rush is brave for coming out and admitting to his "problem". I say what's so brave about coming out when you've already been outed? That's not bravery, that's CYA.
Of course the Justice Department isn't too concerned. They're not planning on prosecuting, they want to go after the dealers, since no one likes the evil dealers and people get huffy when you go after harmless, innocent users.
 
I think the distinction here could be the 'selling' aspect. Its no secret that for softer drugs the punishments usually dont become a felony until you have enough of the drug that it is considered to be for distribution, rather than personal use. However, I note that Chong wasnt actually selling drugs, but rather drug paraphanalia, so you would think that fact might bring the punishment back down to a level similar to 'personal use' levels.
 
Remember, kids: somking pot can wreck your life... and the government will make damn sure that it does.
 
Agammamon said:

What really gets me is the people saying Rush is brave for coming out and admitting to his "problem". I say what's so brave about coming out when you've already been outed? That's not bravery, that's CYA.
Of course the Justice Department isn't too concerned. They're not planning on prosecuting, they want to go after the dealers, since no one likes the evil dealers and people get huffy when you go after harmless, innocent users.
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Yeah, I noticed that he didn't come out and admit it until after the National Enquirer outted him and yet the right wingers are all making a big thing about how brave he is to step up and admit he's a dopehead.

What's really tragic is that he probably badgered his Mexican housekeeper to go out and purchase these drugs for him on the black market and she'll end up being the one thrown into prison for "dealing" to him.
 
Its no secret that for softer drugs the punishments usually dont become a felony until you have enough of the drug that it is considered to be for distribution, rather than personal use.
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Yeah, but it doesn't take much. I don't have the references right now because I don't want to do a search on marijuana laws from my PC at work, but "I've heard" that a quarter is considered enough to distribute and is punishable along the same lines as crack or heroin. That's rediculous. I have friends who can smoke up a quarter in a good weekend. It's not a lot at all.
 
deanerk said:


Yeah, but it doesn't take much. I don't have the references right now because I don't want to do a search on marijuana laws from my PC at work, but "I've heard" that a quarter is considered enough to distribute and is punishable along the same lines as crack or heroin. That's rediculous. I have friends who can smoke up a quarter in a good weekend. It's not a lot at all.
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Depends on what state you're in. Check http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4516 for full details. Here in New York, possession of less than a full ounce (edit: correction, less than 25g) is just a civil offense.
 
Disgusting

Yes, this whole "paraphenalia" thing really appalls me. And it is amazing how insensibly we watch our freedoms whittle away. It happens so gradually and incrementally that most don't even notice it and won't notice it until it actually affects the freedoms they are interested in. There was a time when it was unfathomable to me and to many others that it could be a crime to own or sell paraphenalia.

In what way shape or form could selling a bong be a crime in any meaningful sense of the word. For there to be a crime there has to be a victim - someone has to have been exploited or cheated or harmed - in short, their civil liberties have to have curtailed in some way. This is what we have come to - a crime is whatever people decide a crime is. No principle involved at all. "Crime" now has become an arbitrary entity. Whatever someone decides they don't like, if enough people say it, it becomes a crime.

And it's human waste like Rush Limbaugh who lead the charge - "mandatory minimums" and life sentences for "kingpins" and confiscation of houses and cars and cash of those convicted of or even suspected of drug crimes - all in the name of Rush's hypocritical sense of morality.
 
subgenius said:
The DEA and the judge are the real criminals here. What weasels.
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They are enforcing the will of the people. Why is it that America, which prides itself so much on freedom of speech and individuality, has such hang ups about drugs? That's you're real issue. I put it down to this hang up about 'god'.
 
Will of the people? We voted to de-criminalize medical marijuana in our state (and many others) and the feds smashed it. The "will of the people" in recent history has been thwarted by our government with every attempt at decriminalizing pot, local and federal. Of course if everyone would give up this "medical use" crap and just go for legalizing it for general use, we wouldn't have the FDA to contend with, and all the other issues with getting it legalized as medicine. It would be easier , IMO, to legalize marijuana and treat it the same as beer and cigarettes, and not a medicinal drug.

When asked what he thought about feds coming down hard on stoners, he replied, "I feel pretty bad, but it seems to be the only weapons of mass destruction they've found this year."
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Hehe always the comedian!

I didn't realize selling smoking material online was illegal. My cousin owns a head-shop here in Cali and has a website (though I don't know whether or not he sells online)...better warn him.
Operation Pipe Dreams--Attorney General John Ashcroft's crackdown on black-market drug-paraphernalia sales on the Internet...
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Our tax dollars at work. What a waste.

How is arresting bong-sellers going to help win the so-called war on drugs? answer: it won't and they know it. Politics as usual.
 
They are enforcing the will of the people.
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Which is exactly what they are NOT supposed to do.

Judges are supposed to enforce the law, which is supposed to be based on the constitution, which includes provisions to prevent the will of the people from abusing the rights of some of the people.
 
Unique:

People here are hung-up about everything. Every successful advertisement, every new TV show, every new EVERYTHING, is marketed with sex, contains sex, hints about sex.....yet it is shameful to see a nude human body on TV.

We sell drugs on TV that give guys a woody...these drugs even sponsor NASCAR races and other sporting events! What do you tell your kid when his favorite race car driver drives the "Viagra" car? "Daddy what's Viagra?". Yet we cringe about selling condoms on TV. Who drives the NASCAR with the sponsor from the company that cured a debilitating disease? Ya right, there ain't one.

I can turn on my TV and watch a gorey splatter flick, see a guys head torn off, watch people get shot with automatic rifles, yet the love(sex) scenes are editied out. Which would you rather that your kid saw?

We can pay a person to give us a massage anywhere on our bodies that we want, EXCEPT the one place people would really like massaged the most! It's illegal to pay for sex in most places. Why? I mean really?

Hangups is an understatement. Everything in our country revolves around sex, yet we pretend like it doesn't. Who actually has these hangups - the goverrnment or the people - is still up in the air, as far as I'm concerned.
 
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