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Today's Mass Shooting Threat

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Today's mass shooting threat comes from Compton, near L.A., where a 13-year-old middle school student has been arrested and charged with making a threat.

Students at Ánimo Mae Jemison Charter Middle School told teachers and administrators on Thursday they heard the boy, a student at the school, threatening to shoot students and staff members, Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva said at a news conference.

Deputies interviewed students and identified a suspect. During a search of the suspect's home, officials seized an AR-15 assault-type rifle, about 100 rounds of ammunition, a hand-drawn map of the school and a list of names of students and staff members, said Sgt. Robert Dean.

"He did have a list of names and at this point we're trying to determine what that list was for," Dean said.

The firearm that was found is unregistered, but does have a serial number, Villanueva said.

The boy was charged with criminal threats and other charges may be filed, Villanueva said.
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Checkmite said:
Today's mass shooting threat comes from Compton, near L.A., where a 13-year-old middle school student has been arrested and charged with making a threat.
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What proof do you have that this was a credible threat? I mean, he could have been working on a play for school and trying to get into the mind of the spree shooter when he got his hands on the rifle and ammo. Drawing the map and making a revenge list just shows his dedication to the writing craft. Heck, for all you know he was trying to see how someone might go on a shooting spree so he could find flaws in the plan and warn the students and faculty how to take advantage of those flaws and save their lives!

So now we're arresting heroes who try to stop rampage shooters. Thanks, Obama ...
 
Joe Random said:
What proof do you have that this was a credible threat? I mean, he could have been working on a play for school and trying to get into the mind of the spree shooter when he got his hands on the rifle and ammo. Drawing the map and making a revenge list just shows his dedication to the writing craft. Heck, for all you know he was trying to see how someone might go on a shooting spree so he could find flaws in the plan and warn the students and faculty how to take advantage of those flaws and save their lives!

So now we're arresting heroes who try to stop rampage shooters. Thanks, Obama ...
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Tell me you are joking.
 
As much as I think JR's post was probably a joke, she is straying towards thought crime.
 
Hmmmm....there's something ... different ...about this one...lets see...

13 year old boy? No, that's not it.

Illegal At-15 and ammo ? No, too obvious...

Oh, I know! He's Straight Outa Compton! It's a #LWB thread in disguise!
 
Thermal said:
Hmmmm....there's something ... different ...about this one...lets see...

13 year old boy? No, that's not it.

Illegal At-15 and ammo ? No, too obvious...

Oh, I know! He's Straight Outa Compton! It's a #LWB thread in disguise!
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Do you mind explaining that normally as I have no register to what Compton means
 
Joe Random said:
What proof do you have that this was a credible threat? I mean, he could have been working on a play for school and trying to get into the mind of the spree shooter when he got his hands on the rifle and ammo. Drawing the map and making a revenge list just shows his dedication to the writing craft. Heck, for all you know he was trying to see how someone might go on a shooting spree so he could find flaws in the plan and warn the students and faculty how to take advantage of those flaws and save their lives!

So now we're arresting heroes who try to stop rampage shooters. Thanks, Obama ...
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Nice bit of thermal channelling there JR
 
Compton? Is Compton still Compton, where the police are busy dodging gangbanger bullets on their way to another shooting? Much too busy to bother with threats I would think.

The only thing interesting about these stories is the very thing Thermal keeps arguing and everyone keeps telling him he's wrong about, and that's the possible overreaction to these types of things.

It's a wise argument to make in this day.

I also find it interesting that the cops are so trusted in these stories. Police don't usually get away with this here at the ISF.

To be clear, you can take two similar stories, change the race of those involved and get different arguments from the same people. That's what I see here anyways. With one, the authorities are liars, the other not so much.

Finally, I also find it "interesting" that the media and many people are so focused on so-called mass shootings when they are an almost insignificant part of total shootings.

I guess it's just accepted that inner cities have staggering amounts of murders every day. As usual, nobody cares about the poor folk in the cities.

I guess nobody cares about any of it beyond how it fits into their own agendas because nothing is ever done to stop it. A shooting only matters when it solidifies my views and I can start a thread, or write an article about it.
 
Thermal said:
It's, uh, in the first line of the OP. Post #1. Compton is the town name, South of Los Angeles, California, USA.

Straight Outa Compton was a multi platinum album by N.W.A.



Living While Black
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Thanks for the first, but still don't get LWB, even with your bit.

"Living while black?"
 
I might have thought that threatening students, having a map and a list of potential victims, and having an unregistered rifle might exceed the criteria we usually apply to "living," while black or anything else.

In other threads, Thermal has made an argument that certain perceived threats are met with overreaction, and has been asked what threats he would consider warrant intervention. Here is one, and he seems to have dodged the question, so I'll ask it: do you think it reasonable to consider this student's threat real?
 
Checkmite said:
That thing that you're always complaining about people seeing and pointing out in your arguments is threatening to show again here.
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You're right, sort of. What I complain about is the dishonesty of posters who don't like a trendy Twitter narrative questioned. Keep repeating the narrative so you seem enlightened and totally one of the Good Ones. Don't ever, ever question it.

Here, the boy has a list of names and a hand drawn map of the school. Oh yeah, and access to an illegal AK. If you recall, on the Wilson thread, I even specifically said that a hand drawn map would be pretty damning evidence, btw. So this OP story is very different, and the narrative appears to be highly credible.

Yet still we have a poster above (and a mindless cheerleader) strawmanning and pretending that this one would be challenged in the same way that I challenged others, even though the evidence presented is drastically different. Unprompted straw arguments are indeed the hallmark of honest discussion, n'est-ce pas?

So what I am 'complaining about' is indeed threatening to show itself again. Dishonest arguments from posters who fall over themselves trying to toe the narrative and ridicule an honest questioning.
 
bruto said:
I might have thought that threatening students, having a map and a list of potential victims, and having an unregistered rifle might exceed the criteria we usually apply to "living," while black or anything else.

In other threads, Thermal has made an argument that certain perceived threats are met with overreaction, and has been asked what threats he would consider warrant intervention. Here is one, and he seems to have dodged the question, so I'll ask it: do you think it reasonable to consider this student's threat real?
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This one is quite obviously more robust in terms of being a credible threat. Painfully obvious, IMO. But I did not dodge the question, if you read my earlier post. I just cut to the chase ( think about my saying the weapon was too obvious). Some dishonest posters here, invariably white dudes who fall over themselves to say they are one of the Good Ones (not you), are going to say that I believe this one is a real threat because he is reported to be from Compton. World renowned Home of the Bloods and Crips. So our dishonest posters will accuse me of believing this one because the kid might be assumed to be a POC.

These guys get a little dull so I toss in a foreshadowing post once in a while.
 
bruto said:
I might have thought that threatening students, having a map and a list of potential victims, and having an unregistered rifle might exceed the criteria we usually apply to "living," while black or anything else.
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As far as I know, an unregistered rifle is the norm. Even in CA the law does not require that a person register their entire collection, the registration scheme is limited to the most recently obtained guns.

Ranb
 
Thermal said:
Yet still we have a poster above (and a mindless cheerleader) strawmanning and pretending that this one would be challenged in the same way that I challenged others, even though the evidence presented is drastically different.
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This is fine, but what's with the race angle then? The snarky "strawmanning" post you're complaining about didn't mention or allude to racism.

Thermal said:
This one is quite obviously more robust in terms of being a credible threat. Painfully obvious, IMO. But I did not dodge the question, if you read my earlier post. I just cut to the chase ( think about my saying the weapon was too obvious). Some dishonest posters here, invariably white dudes who fall over themselves to say they are one of the Good Ones (not you), are going to say that I believe this one is a real threat because he is reported to be from Compton.
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You hadn't even posted here yet. Obviously the person above that you're complaining about, expected you to not find this story credible, because of your reaction to similar cases. You really think that if you surprise everyone by agreeing with the room on this one and finding this threat credible, the others - who also, themselves, find the threat credible - are going to complain that you agree with them because you're racist? That's...bizarre.
 
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