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This Week's Rising Star - The Newt Thread

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No one's started the "flavor of the week" thread for Newt, yet.

With the crash and burn of both Perry and Cain, the Tea Party is now pushing to the crafty old veteran.

In a world where Newt Gingrich was the voice of sanity and calm (the GOP debates, to date, where he played elder statesman), anything can happen. But I think there's more than entertainment coming, here. Newt can win the nomination.

No, he hasn't been under the microscope yet, but yes, he's been under it for years. We know what's going to come, but so do the faithful and they don't care. And Romney can't get above his current percentage range, no matter what. He doesn't inspire the Tea Part fundies, and in fact worries them.

It's not a locked-in certainty, but Gingrich could actually take the nomination.
 
He's already in denial mode. "I was not a lobbyist. The millions of dollars they paid me were for consulting on how to get a bill passed, not for lobbying."

And don't think that the whole Tiffany's thing won't pop up it's bejeweled head again.
 
Newt was one of the first to sign that sleazeball Grover's anti-tax pledge. He is a perfect match for the teatards.
 
I still don't think Newt has a chance, but anything is possible with this group of republicans probably. Another thing to keep in mind is that a candidate can have a decent percentage in the overall polls, but it doesn't mean much if you don't win some early states during the primaries. Look what happened to Giuliani last election when he banked on winning Florida and neglecting the early states.

A recent poll out today showed Romney way ahead in New Hampshire, but there's a ways to go. I'm very curious to see what happens in Iowa. If Romney wins both, that could be that.....
 
Tricky said:
He's already in denial mode. "I was not a lobbyist. The millions of dollars they paid me were for consulting on how to get a bill passed, not for lobbying."

And don't think that the whole Tiffany's thing won't pop up it's bejeweled head again.
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Here's the little lizard saying that Barney Frank should go to jail for being close to lobbyists at Freddie Mac.



Steve S
 
Sure you must recognize that all of the crazy-party stuff going on is contrived to make a Newt/Mitt ticket look harmless? Really? Come on now, it's totally obvious, and now I think the other shoe has dropped.
 
jj said:
Sure you must recognize that all of the crazy-party stuff going on is contrived to make a Newt/Mitt ticket look harmless? Really? Come on now, it's totally obvious, and now I think the other shoe has dropped.
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You could be right, in your own way (meaning the upshot rather than the motiviation). Newt can bring along the diehard red states, and even get some of them off their arses to vote. His "pledge" was nonsensical and ineffective, but the Teabaggers love him for it almost as much as the revere the ghost of St. Ronnie of California. Mitt brings the supposedly moderate vote in.

Oh, and for those of you born yesterday, I'm with Tricky. He's a sleazebucket. I just think that with the avaricious attitude of the right wing nowadays, they won't give a damn and in fact might see that as a plus. Plus, always remember that I select GOP tickets based on their comedy value. When thinking of a GOP race I always ask, "But is this good for The Daily Show?"
 
Pawlenty must be kicking himself now.

This could have been his turn to be "this week's rising star" if he hadn't prematurely folded his tent.

The fact that Newt Gingrich is getting a second look shows just how desperate Republicans are for a credible alternative to Romney.

T-Paw won't set the world on fire, but surely he's a better choice than Newt with all his baggage.
 
Puppycow said:
Pawlenty must be kicking himself now.

This could have been his turn to be "this week's rising star" if he hadn't prematurely folded his tent.

The fact that Newt Gingrich is getting a second look shows just how desperate Republicans are for a credible alternative to Romney.

T-Paw won't set the world on fire, but surely he's a better choice than Newt with all his baggage.
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He at least was a credible and substantial candidate.
 
I heard Newt respond to a question regarding his rather underfunded and unconventional campaign a few weeks ago at one of the debates. Instead of answering he choose to respond with, "I wish you would stop asking gotcha questions!"

The new norm if you don't like the questions being asked is to deflect with lines like this.
 
Biscuit said:
I heard Newt respond to a question regarding his rather underfunded and unconventional campaign a few weeks ago at one of the debates. Instead of answering he choose to respond with, "I wish you would stop asking gotcha questions!"

The new norm if you don't like the questions being asked is to deflect with lines like this.
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NPR had a ton of these this morning
[paraphrase]
Question: Can you comment on Massachusetts where there is a law similar to the recent health care law and everyone is insured vs. Texas where there are a huge number of uninsured people?

Newt: "Gotcha question!" [/paraphrase]

If he continues to run against the mythological liberal main-stream media he will do well with the fox-tards, but it won't win him the election.

Daredelvis
 
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jj said:
Sure you must recognize that all of the crazy-party stuff going on is contrived to make a Newt/Mitt ticket look harmless? Really? Come on now, it's totally obvious, and now I think the other shoe has dropped.
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I don't buy it.

The thing for Romney (the inevitable eventual nominee) to do is to wait until after he wins the primary by default, and then pick a moderate Southerner as VP to help in the general. There's no benefit in picking right now from amongst the current crop of nudniks. If he picks a right-wing guy now, it hurts him in the general. If he picks a moderate now, it hurts him in the primary.
 
Vorticity said:
I don't buy it.

The thing for Romney (the inevitable eventual nominee) to do is to wait until after he wins the primary by default, and then pick a moderate Southerner as VP to help in the general. There's no benefit in picking right now from amongst the current crop of nudniks. If he picks a right-wing guy now, it hurts him in the general. If he picks a moderate now, it hurts him in the primary.
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As an outsider looking in, it seems like Romney/Huntsman is their best bet in the general if it wasn't for that whole Mormon thing. Who's the next best southern moderate to Huntsman?
 
I may be a bit biased, but to me Newt will always be the guy who took out the Contract on America back in the 90's (at least that's what I called it when I was 20-something bleeding heart liberal)
 
Here's a take-down of Newt, and the best thing about it is it comes from the right.
Although it's published in the New York Times, its author is Andrew Ferguson of the Weekly Standard.

When his top campaign staff abandoned him not long ago, Newt Gingrich didn’t seem terribly surprised. “Philosophically, I am very different from normal politicians,” he said. “We have big ideas.”

The “we,” as Gingrich uses it here, is akin to the royal we — it’s what might be called the professorial we, employed when the intellectual and the ideas he generates merge to create an entity too large for a singular personal pronoun. “Over my years in public life,” he writes in his latest book about how to save America, “I have become known as an ‘ideas man.’ ” And we shouldn’t doubt it. As I write, a stack of books tilts Pisa-like on my desk, each volume written by Gingrich and various co-authors. I got out my tape measure the other day and discovered that the stack is precisely 15¼ inches high — a figure that does not include the various revised and expanded editions that I have had Whispernetted into my Kindle, along with the historical novels that Gingrich has published with a co-writer named William R. Forstchen: three fat books on the Civil War, three on World War II and a pair on the Revolutionary War. If I added these to my stack, it would be taller than the mayor of Munchkinland and much heavier.
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Foolmewunz said:
No one's started the "flavor of the week" thread for Newt, yet.

With the crash and burn of both Perry and Cain, the Tea Party is now pushing to the crafty old veteran.

In a world where Newt Gingrich was the voice of sanity and calm (the GOP debates, to date, where he played elder statesman), anything can happen. But I think there's more than entertainment coming, here. Newt can win the nomination.

No, he hasn't been under the microscope yet, but yes, he's been under it for years. We know what's going to come, but so do the faithful and they don't care. And Romney can't get above his current percentage range, no matter what. He doesn't inspire the Tea Part fundies, and in fact worries them.

It's not a locked-in certainty, but Gingrich could actually take the nomination.
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And Romney can’t take the nomination?
And Romney not a voice of sanity and calm?
Why are you pimping for Gingrich?
Is he good for the Jews?
 
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