They're not all mad

[Cuddles]

http://www.newscientist.com/channel...christian-faith-in-the-iotheri-good-book.html

It's always good to remember that not all religious people are raving maniacs. Creationarians are really just a small minority and it's nice to see pressure coming from other Christians and not just skeptics.

 

[hammegk]

Yeah, I've noticed most foaming-at-the-mouth types here seem to classify themselves in some other camp, usually what some might call materialism/naturalism.

 

[hgc]

And most scratching-at-the-butt types are what some might call hammegk.

hgc, please keep in mind your membership agreement regarding civility. Personalizing things only escalates them without adding value to a discussion. Thanks.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: jmercer

 

[hammegk]

It didn't take long for one of the group I mentioned to show up.

 

[hgc]

It didn't take long for one of the group I mentioned to show up.

You must be some kind of friggin' genius!

Although I realize you posted this before I put the above mod box in place, for consistencies sake, I thought I'd point out that this post falls into the same category as the first one.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: jmercer

 

[John Hewitt]

http://www.newscientist.com/channel...christian-faith-in-the-iotheri-good-book.html

It's always good to remember that not all religious people are raving maniacs. Creationarians are really just a small minority and it's nice to see pressure coming from other Christians and not just skeptics.

I'm not sure I have seen many raving maniacs of either evolutionarian or christian inclination. The problem is intolerant bullying and I will go with hammegk on the proximate source of that behaviour.

 

[hgc]

I'm not sure I have seen many raving maniacs of either evolutionarian or christian inclination. The problem is intolerant bullying and I will go with hammegk on the proximate source of that behaviour.

You're relatively new here, so the error is understandable.

 

[fuelair]

http://www.newscientist.com/channel...christian-faith-in-the-iotheri-good-book.html

It's always good to remember that not all religious people are raving maniacs. Creationarians are really just a small minority and it's nice to see pressure coming from other Christians and not just skeptics.

Hopefully, nothing I have written implies that!! I have many religious friends - some of whom know my exact stance on same - and most of whom are not concerned about it.

 

[hammegk]

You're relatively new here, so the error is understandable.

Sorry. No error.

Here's a hanky. Wipe your mouth.

 

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

I'm not sure I have seen many raving maniacs of either evolutionarian or christian inclination. The problem is intolerant bullying and I will go with hammegk on the proximate source of that behaviour.

Examples? Not including here, where since most of us are materialist/naturalists/whatever, then certainly most of the bullying will come from that camp by sheer force of numbers.

Yeah, I've noticed most foaming-at-the-mouth types here seem to classify themselves in some other camp, usually what some might call materialism/naturalism.

Deliciously alanic!

~~ Paul

 

[John Hewitt]

Examples? Not including here, where since most of us are materialist/naturalists/whatever, then certainly most of the bullying will come from that camp by sheer force of numbers.
~~ Paul

If it is not here, then it is not proximate and I think it behooves an ethical majority to display some tolerance toward minorities. I am not going to specify more distant examples - words like "can" and "worms" spring to mind.

 

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

If it is not here, then it is not proximate and I think it behooves an ethical majority to display some tolerance toward minorities. I am not going to specify more distant examples - words like "can" and "worms" spring to mind.

I agree that the majority should display tolerance. Nevertheless, whatever intolerance is displayed is most likely to come from the biggest crowd, simply due to the numbers. Also, you haven't been here long enough to witness the intolerance from the likes of, say, Kurious Kathy.

That said, by all means point out intolerance when you see it. I don't think Hammegk can complain, since we've tolerated him forever.

~~ Paul

 

[Schneibster]

You're relatively new here, so the error is understandable.

Yes, but it's already amassed an impressive record. At least if you find such things impressive.

 

[Schneibster]

I agree that the majority should display tolerance. Nevertheless, whatever intolerance is displayed is most likely to come from the biggest crowd, simply due to the numbers. Also, you haven't been here long enough to witness the intolerance from the likes of, say, Kurious Kathy.

Actually, interestingly, in this particular case the most intolerant appear to be in the minority. Given religious freedom and freedom of speech, they seem to feel that they are permitted to alter the educations of children to fit their intolerant prejudices.

It's a shame, really.

 

[Dr Adequate]

Creationarians ...

Have you been sitting too close to kleinman?

"Creationists", dammit.

Apart from that, your main point is true: most Christians are not complete raving nutters, it's just that the loudest and most vocal of them are.

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As for hammegk, no-one knows what he believes, 'cos he refuses to tell us. I am not ashamed of my opinions, and if I had opinions I was ashamed to admit to, then I'd change them; but it takes all sorts to make a world.

 

[hgc]

As for hammegk, no-one knows what he believes, 'cos he refuses to tell us. I am not ashamed of my opinions, and if I had opinions I was ashamed to admit to, then I'd change them; but it takes all sorts to make a world.

Not entirely. We know that hammy thinks that slavery was beneficial to black people, and isn't afraid to admit it.

 

[hammegk]

Actually, interestingly, in this particular case the most intolerant appear to be in the minority. Given religious freedom and freedom of speech, they seem to feel that they are permitted to alter the educations of children to fit their intolerant prejudices.

It's a shame, really.

Why bring up the minority here (an all-powerful minority considering who is involved) who support denying parents the right to educate their children ...

Not entirely. We know that hammy thinks that slavery was beneficial to black people, and isn't afraid to admit it.

Yup. I've said I'd rather be black in the USA than back in Africa.

 

[Dr Adequate]

Not entirely. We know that hammy thinks that slavery was beneficial to black people, and isn't afraid to admit it.

Yes, and he also claims that Ambulocetus is a whale. Sure. But where is he coming from?

I can state my own personal philosophy very simply: "If it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, then in the absence of any evidence to the contrary, we must provisionally believe that it's a duck."

That is the whole of Adequacy, from start to finish.

But what does hammy really believe? He refuses to say, and no-one can guess.

 

[hammegk]

As for hammegk, no-one knows what he believes, 'cos he refuses to tell us. I am not ashamed of my opinions, and if I had opinions I was ashamed to admit to, then I'd change them; but it takes all sorts to make a world.

Your "opinions" usually boil down to "he's a liar" while citing some irrelevant article.

That, and your opinion -- shared by our fine Administrators -- that your use of JREF for fun & profit notwithstanding the Rules is AoK.

And I have no doubt you are unable to understand what I believe.

 

[hgc]

Why bring up the minority here (an all-powerful minority considering who is involved) who support denying parents the right to educate their children ...

Anatomy of a strawman. By the addition of a single pronoun, hammy alters the gist of Schneibster's post to something he can sniff at with faux contempt. And a wink.