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Thermite Welding

Orphia Nay

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Anyone heard of "Thermite Welding"?

Here's a video from the American Welding Society.

American Welding Society
How many of you have ever performed thermite welding?

For those of you who don't know, thermite welding uses an exothermic reaction from a thermite composition to heat and join metals together. Like most other types of welding, it requires no external source of heat.

(Video Courtesy: Wolfgang Lendner)
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https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=864139386951273

What implications, if any, does this have on truther theories? Maybe none, but I hadn't seen this video posted here, so maybe some of you haven't either.
 
Orphia Nay said:
Anyone heard of "Thermite Welding"?

Here's a video from the American Welding Society.



https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=864139386951273

What implications, if any, does this have on truther theories? Maybe none, but I hadn't seen this video posted here, so maybe some of you haven't either.
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It's old school in the railroad world. It doesn't help their case at all. In fact, it would hurt it.

Basically thermite is used to fuse together long sections of rail. It's not new.
 
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Thermite is an actual substance that is actually used in construction. That's why truthers latched onto it in the first place. What it doesn't do very well is cut.
 
DGM said:
It's old school in the railroad world. It doesn't help their case at all. In fact, it would hurt it.

Basically thermite is used to fuse together long sections of rail. It's not new.
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Yep. It is the standard way for replacing small sections of rail. New tracks are pressure welded (if I remember my apprenticeship correctly, a mile or two of rail is bonded under immense pressures). Out on track it is a sand mould and some bags of welding mix. Quick, efficient, and pretty spectacular to watch. Especially on otherwise cold nights.
 
The important feature of the thermite reaction when used for rail welding is not that it produces immense temperatures to melt the already existing steel of the rail on track, but that it produces, in a simple process that is practicable for a small repair team, a batch of (new) molten steel. That molten steel fills the gap between the two ends of the rail.

The weld cools quickly. As can be seen in the videos, workers can safely operate around the spot within seconds, and they have to work quick to hammer off the leftovers before they cool too much.

After no more than 45 minutes, a train can run over the weld.

So we have the reaction going in seconds, liquid steel during tens of seconds, and red-hot solid steel for minutes at most. Things for truthers to learn.
 
Oystein said:
The important feature of the thermite reaction when used for rail welding is not that it produces immense temperatures to melt the already existing steel of the rail on track, but that it produces, in a simple process that is practicable for a small repair team, a batch of (new) molten steel. That molten steel fills the gap between the two ends of the rail.

The weld cools quickly. As can be seen in the videos, workers can safely operate around the spot within seconds, and they have to work quick to hammer off the leftovers before they cool too much.

After no more than 45 minutes, a train can run over the weld.

So we have the reaction going in seconds, liquid steel during tens of seconds, and red-hot solid steel for minutes at most. Things for truthers to learn.
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Correction thermite does not produce steel just iron.

Thermitic lances are of more common use
Now than thermite welding.

Thermitic lances cut steel using aluminum and
Oxygen.
 
Oystein said:
Yes. My mistake (but a slight one)
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Oystein,
Everyone makes mistakes part of
Being human, just wanted to point out that
Thematic welding is not used on steel because
Iron would form a weak joint.

However the process is used in casting
and cutting Now.
 
Just out of interest, if anyone was going to bring down the towers or 7 using thermite, how would you go about it ?
 
Spanx said:
Just out of interest, if anyone was going to bring down the towers or 7 using thermite, how would you go about it ?
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Find the owner of a demolition company and threaten to thermite-weld the doors of his car shut unless he sneaks you some RDX shaped charges.
 
Spanx said:
Just out of interest, if anyone was going to bring down the towers or 7 using thermite, how would you go about it ?
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Use it to compromise the water to the sprinklers and set the building on fire. A big pile around the building would also be helpful in keeping the FD away. ;)
 
How about some thermite on the stiffener plates on 7 ? It could explain why they missed them out the report. ;)
 
Spanx said:
Just out of interest, if anyone was going to bring down the towers or 7 using thermite, how would you go about it ?
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I would build massive firebrick-lined containment structures around columns 79, 80, and 81 in WTC 7 and fill them with tons of thermite, as was used to demolish the Chicago World's Fair Skyride Tower in 1937. I'd place them on the double-height trading floor on the top storey. Ignite them all, melt the columns so that the east mechanical penthouse crashes through the roof and causes an internal collapse.

If this were a legit demolition, I'd cross my fingers and toes hoping that something doesn't go horribly wrong and the building and falls onto its neighbors.

If a nefarious demolition, I'd hope that nobody notices the massive containment structures around the columns sitting in the middle of open office space ;) before I touch off the thermite, or the dazzling light when I do touch them off :rolleyes:, or the tons of cooled iron left over, probably looking like massive iron-nickle meteorites :eye-poppi, or the tons of alumina residue all over everything. ;)

OTOH, I wouldn't care about damage to surrounding buildings. Who sez that a nefarious demolition has to be a controlled demolition? :cool:
 

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Spanx said:
Just out of interest, if anyone was going to bring down the towers or 7 using thermite, how would you go about it ?
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Use the thermite to simultaneously start the building on fire and destroy the plumbing for the sprinkler system.
 
Spanx said:
Just out of interest, if anyone was going to bring down the towers or 7 using thermite, how would you go about it ?
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Use the thermite to set off the conventional explosives on the beams then a radio transmitter to set off all the explosive ceiling tiles lastly I'd have all the beam cutters that will cause the free fall on a hard wired net. The smoke generators had their own dedicated operators. The space disruption beams powered bu the hurricane were plan B as were the Tesla oscillators.

The hologram projectors and fake planes are just for show.
 
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