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The war against porn

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WTF? In this day and age people are still being prosecuted for putting porn made by consenting adults on the internets? Just because it's "obscene" in the eyes of The Church Lady?

In fact, yes:

http://reason.com/blog/2010/05/03/recently-at-reasontv-should-ob

http://dyn.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/index.cfm/tag/Obscenity

Porn producer John Stagliano faces up to 32 years in federal prison for distributing the adult films Milk Nymphos and Storm Squirters 2: Target Practice and a promo reel for similar material via his website for Evil Angel Productions (adults only).
OMGs!!!!111!
Female bodily fluids!
I guess that's the difference that makes it "obscene."
 
How can anyone honestly justify a prosecution over this sort of material when child porn still exists? Oh no! Consenting adults are doing something that some other adults don't want to watch! The horror!
 
Why is this in Non-USA Politics? This is archetypical USA stuff! :D
 
Why is this in Non-USA Politics? This is archetypical USA stuff! :D
Really? As far as I can tell, American porn distributors have consistently been first, best, and hard-corest with Internet porn for over a decade now.

Say what you will about American prudery, but Internet lockdown is definitely not a problem American porn distributors have.
 
Really? As far as I can tell, American porn distributors have consistently been first, best, and hard-corest with Internet porn for over a decade now.

Say what you will about American prudery, but Internet lockdown is definitely not a problem American porn distributors have.

Uhm yes it is. Just ask Max.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Hardcore

In 2007 Paul F. Little and his company Max World Entertainment, Inc. were indicted by the United States Department of Justice Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section with five counts of transporting obscene matter by use of an interactive computer service and five counts of mailing obscene matter, relating to 5 movies[18][19] showing fisting, urination and vomiting.[20] Little was subsequently found guilty on all charges,[20] and sentenced to 46 months in prison.[21] Though the convictions have been appealed to the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals in Atlanta, Georgia,[22] Little began serving his sentence on January 29, 2009.[22][23]
 
Really? As far as I can tell, American porn distributors have consistently been first, best, and hard-corest with Internet porn for over a decade now.

Say what you will about American prudery, but Internet lockdown is definitely not a problem American porn distributors have.

While we can dispute the "best" (would be a matter of personal taste and thus subject to cultural imprinting, eh?), you are of course right. The archetypically American thing are both sides of that medal: The unequalled availabilty and productivity of the porn business, and the unusually loud cry of "obscenity" by your religious majority.
 
Really? As far as I can tell, American porn distributors have consistently been first, best, and hard-corest with Internet porn for over a decade now.

Say what you will about American prudery, but Internet lockdown is definitely not a problem American porn distributors have.

But it has obsenity laws that people run into. See Seymore Butts a number of years ago got hit with them for having a fisting scene in a film.
 
A porn moment I'll never forget.

Catania, Sicily. 1985. We got off the liberty boat and had a few hours in town, headed back to the ship. At the boat landing, it was going to be about an hour for the next liberty launch, so we sauntered over to a small trailer concession stand -- it was nearly midnight -- to get a burger and a beer. The guy knew his customers: he cooked the burgers over an open flame, and sold cold Peroni.

His two daughters, preteen/early teen, helped him. On a small television above his cooking area was a porn film. Standard choke and poke. He very non chalantly went about his business, his daughters weren't taking much interest in the TV, from what I saw. Hhe had the sound down. As we waited in line there was a modicum of entertainment value in this curious set up: you'd not get that at any American burger joint in 1985.

Let's hope the war on porn doesn't include shutting down venues of this sort.

DR
 
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The anti-porn crusaders never give up. They have a particularly shoddy record of convictions in these cases.
Locally, a couple of years ago, a married couple in an adjacent county had a flourishing business producing and selling their own material. They were the only "actors" and the VHS tapes were marketed both locally and nationally.
The authorities there couldn't stand it, and a raid was conducted. Everything was seized, tapes, dubbing equipment, cameras, etc.
After a remarkably short period of time, it was determined that no case could be made and everything was returned to the couple.
A year or so later, the pair began marketing "sex education" tapes which essentially showed people "how to do it".
Same thing...Arrests, seizures, review, and case dropped....

I can remember, back when the VCR hit the market and mom-pop video stores sprung up everywhere...Our two local prosecutors St. Louis and St. Louis county, started to out-bluenose each other by declaring war on these naughty people.
Effectively, they made it impossible to rent any sort of "X" rated material in the area.
(Of course, by simply crossing the county line or the river, you could get whatever you liked...)
Then the St. Louis prosecutor at the time was arrested (by St. Louis County!) for "soliciting prostitution". The subsequent investigation found he was paying for his liaisons with city money, and also had accumulated a very large personal collection of porn from the "seized" tapes his office had investigated...
Funny stuff.
 
I can remember, back when the VCR hit the market and mom-pop video stores sprung up everywhere...Our two local prosecutors St. Louis and St. Louis county, started to out-bluenose each other by declaring war on these naughty people.
Effectively, they made it impossible to rent any sort of "X" rated material in the area.
(Of course, by simply crossing the county line or the river, you could get whatever you liked...)
Then the St. Louis prosecutor at the time was arrested (by St. Louis County!) for "soliciting prostitution". The subsequent investigation found he was paying for his liaisons with city money, and also had accumulated a very large personal collection of porn from the "seized" tapes his office had investigated...
Funny stuff.
Well, how else was he supposed to get porn? Drive to the next county?
 
Too much trouble, I presume...Perhaps the city wasn't paying him for mileage?

Another moment....Way back in '68, when I was in the police academy, we spent half a day looking at such seized material...This, the instructors told us with straight faces, was so that we could "recognize porn when we saw it...."
They had quite a collection.
 

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