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The wages of fundamentalism

advancedatheist

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Dumb ideas have harmful consequences in the real world:

http://www.iht.com/bin/print_ipub.php?file=/articles/2005/06/21/news/edwatson.php

The wages of fundamentalism

Peter Watson International Herald Tribune
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 22, 2005

CAMBRIDGE, England For decades, "big science" - indeed any kind of science - has been led by the United States. There are warning signs, however, that American science is losing its edge, and may even have peaked. One reason is that as religious and political fundamentalism tighten their grip, they are beginning to sap America's intellectual vitality.

By contrast, the political turmoil that has broken out on the other side of the Atlantic shows that Europeans grasp how destructive fundamentalism can be.

According to a survey in Physical Review, reported in May 2004, the number of scientific papers published by West European authors had overtaken those by U.S. authors in 2003, whereas in 1983 there were three American authors for every West European. The percentage of patents granted to American scientists has been falling since 1980, from 60.2 percent of the world total to 51.8 percent. In 1989, America trained the same number of science and engineering PhDs as Britain, Germany and France put together; now the United States is 5 percent behind. The number of citations in science journals, hitherto led by American scientists, is now led by Europeans.

As battles have raged in Kansas and elsewhere in America over evolution and Genesis, reputable biologists have spoken up in favor of Darwin's theories, but who knows how many students have already been turned off biology by these skirmishes?

As a result of fundamentalist opposition, America is already falling behind in cloning and stem cell research, now led by South Korean, Italian and British scientists. In February the New Scientist reported a survey in which fully half the scientists working for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service said they had been pushed to alter or withdraw scientific findings for political reasons.

Since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, the number of Chinese and Indians traveling to America to study has fallen by more than 50 per cent - they are going to Europe instead. There are now as many Asian PhDs being produced as U.S. ones, more and more of them familiar with Europe.
 
advancedatheist said:
I agree with Peter Watson that fundamentalism can lead to stagnation and disaster. Yet Watson's is one of the worst-researched and -argued op-eds I've seen for a while in the IHT (I must have missed it on its publication date), and that is no mean feat.

For one thing, Watson repeats the canard that "Christianity in the Roman Empire led to half a millennium of dark ages, ending only with the rediscovery of Aristotle in the 12th century." It's a shame that Watson didn't read our "Is religion slowing us down?" thread; then he would have known better. Next, he characterizes the Middle Ages in Europe as an era of fundamentalism, which is simply incorrect.

Some of Watson's remarks are simply inexplicable. For example, he says "Since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, the number of Chinese and Indians traveling to America to study has fallen by more than 50 per cent". Yet according to the Institute of International Education, for the 2000/01 school year, 54,664 Indians and 59,939 Chinese came to the United States to study. By the 2003/04 school year, these numbers had risen to 79,736 Indian students and 61,765 Chinese students. So where is Watson getting his figures? And even if he were correct about there being a drop in post-9/11 foreign student enrollment, how does he reckon that this is due to fundamentalism (except due indirectly to the fundamentalism of the 9/11 hijackers)?
 
The closer I examine this op-ed, the worse it looks. Watson brings hardly any evidence to the table suggesting that any of these alleged developments in U.S. science and technology can be explained by religious fundamentalism, or that this is the best explanation.

Watson says "In February the New Scientist reported a survey in which fully half the scientists working for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service said they had been pushed to alter or withdraw scientific findings for political reasons." This is true (here's the article), but the survey makes clear that those scientists were talking about political influence on behalf of commercial interests. What on earth does this have to do with religious fundamentalism? Also, what makes Watson think that the same basic phenomenon doesn't occur in Europe?
 
ceo_esq said:
I agree with Peter Watson that fundamentalism can lead to stagnation and disaster.
seems like we have an obligation to avoid stagnation and disaster, regardless of race, religion, gender, etc.
 

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