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The Reflecting Pool

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An investigation of the 9/11 events by a Russian-American journalist and a father of a 9/11 victim implicates the US government in the attacks.

ALEX PROKOP (Jarek Kupsc), a successful journalist, receives a rare 9/11 video tape revealing new information about the attack. The footage was sent by PAUL COOPER (Joseph Culp), a driven researcher, whose daughter died on 9/11. Sensing a good story, Prokop travels with Cooper to New York and Washington, DC, where they uncover suppressed information implicating the US Government in the attacks. As Cooper introduces Prokop to key eye-witnesses, the façade of the "official story" begins to crumble. Prokop hears accounts of underground explosions in the Twin Towers moments before their collapse and discovers that the firm providing WTC security was run by the President's brother.

We follow Alex and Cooper as they investigate the inexplicable collapse of the 47-story WTC Building Seven, disprove the implausible airliner "attack" on the Pentagon, and uncover the illegal destruction of physical evidence from Ground Zero.

The pressure builds as the FBI intimidates Alex's editor, McGUIRE, (Lisa Black) to reveal key sources – while the magazine's corporate investors threaten to kill the entire story. Plagued by the ghosts of his Communist childhood and trying to uphold the independence of American journalism, Alex's search for the truth leads to a dangerous and shocking realization!

THE REFLECTING POOL is an intense, sobering investigation into the most controversial tragedy of our time. Drawn from established sources and based on verifiable facts, THE REFLECTING POOL is a thought-provoking study of a search for truth and the profound consequences of not looking for it any further than the nightly news.

I actually attended a local showing of this because I thought the director/lead actor/writer/producer would be attending, and I wanted to embarrass him by pointing out how long it would've taken to set up explosives in the towers. Unfortunately, I was mistaken, and so I left after about 15 minutes because I just couldn't take any more.

Highlights: The show that the film begins with being a carbon copy of the O'Reilly Factor done on a public-access budget; the protagonist clearly being a Mary Sue, a black character saying "When the man says it's Muslims with boxcutters, it's Muslims with boxcutters"; the Popular Mechanics report being dismissed solely because one of the author's was Michael Chertoff's cousin (as if that alone invalidated its arguments), Popular Mechanics' name being changed to "Mechanical Science" (I guess even truthers aren't confident enough that they're right to avoid hedging their bets in case of a lawsuit)

Anyone else seen this?
 
"the Popular Mechanics report being dismissed solely because one of the author's was Michael Chertoff's cousin (as if that alone invalidated its arguments)"

It's also an extraordinarily silly thing to put in as Ben Chertoff isn't (to his knowledge) related to Michael Chertoff. A rebuttal might merely be 'he's lying', but it would be a ridiculous thing to lie about.
 
They should have this at the end of the credits:

"This is a work of fiction and any resemblance between the characters and persons living or dead is purely coincidental".
 
"the Popular Mechanics report being dismissed solely because one of the author's was Michael Chertoff's cousin (as if that alone invalidated its arguments)"

It's also an extraordinarily silly thing to put in as Ben Chertoff isn't (to his knowledge) related to Michael Chertoff. A rebuttal might merely be 'he's lying', but it would be a ridiculous thing to lie about.
Yeah, but you can't expect Conspiracy Theorists to not see conspiracies in almost everything.
 
Sounds like a work of Cinema worthy of a place with the masterpieces of Uwe Boll and Ed Wood.
 
"the Popular Mechanics report being dismissed solely because one of the author's was Michael Chertoff's cousin (as if that alone invalidated its arguments)"

It's also an extraordinarily silly thing to put in as Ben Chertoff isn't (to his knowledge) related to Michael Chertoff. A rebuttal might merely be 'he's lying', but it would be a ridiculous thing to lie about.

Wow. Why the hell would they lie about something as trivial as that? Just when I think that my opinion of truthers can't get any lower, I learn something like this.
 
Wow. Why the hell would they lie about something as trivial as that? Just when I think that my opinion of truthers can't get any lower, I learn something like this.
it was originally report by chris bolleyn, so they take it as gospel truth, and when ben denies it hes of course just covering up
 
Please note the guy has not been able to get any film company to release his film.That should tell you something.
No doubt to the Twoofers this is proof of a conspiracy.
 
It sounds like a poor man's version of Oliver Stone's JFK.
With one huge difference: JFK,though complete and total crap and full of lies from beginning to end, was at least a well made film from a technical viewpoint. This films sounds like poorly made.
 
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but didn't Ben's mother say they're (very distant) cousins?

From Ben Chertoff himself:

Here's the story, as best as I know: I'm not related to Michael Chertoff, at least in any way I can figure out. We might be distant relatives, 15 times removed, but then again, so might you and I. Bottom line is I've never met him, never communicated with him, and nobody I know in my family has ever met or communicated with him.

As for what my mom said: When Chertoff was nominated to be head of homeland security it was the first I'd heard of him, and the same for my family (and, FYI, we'd already sent the 9/11 issue to the press by then!). My dad and I thought there might be some distant relation. When Chris Bollyn called and asked my mom if there was a relation (introducing himself as only "Chris"), she said "they might be distant cousins." Like much in the conspiracy world, this was taken WAY out of context. (Another case in point: Bollyn called me earlier and asked "Were you the senior researcher on the story?" I said, "I guess so," -- that's not a title I have ever used, nor is it at all common in magazine journalism, but I was the research editor at the time, so it kinda made sense.) Nonetheless, I was one of 9 reporters on the story, not counting editors, photo researchers, photo editors, copy editors, layout designers, production managers, fact-checkers, etc., etc., etc. who worked on this story.
 
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but didn't Ben's mother say they're (very distant) cousins?
from what i understand bolleyn interviewed bens mother over the phone and asked if he was related to michael chertoff and she said soemthing to the affect of "i dont know, they might be distant cousins" which bolleyn then printed as "of course, they're cousins"

ETA: didnt notice pugs reply, see above
 
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"the Popular Mechanics report being dismissed solely because one of the author's was Michael Chertoff's cousin (as if that alone invalidated its arguments)"

It's also an extraordinarily silly thing to put in as Ben Chertoff isn't (to his knowledge) related to Michael Chertoff. A rebuttal might merely be 'he's lying', but it would be a ridiculous thing to lie about.

Apparently Ben's mom thinks they are related.
 
You are taking the word of a man that is calling his own mother a liar?


No, we're taking the word of a man who is explaining how his mother was misquoted by a neo-nazi scumbag.


Tell me, why do you choose to defend the actions of said neo-nazi scumbag? Can't we all at least agree that misquoting elderly ladies to support your insane fantasies is wrong? At least?
 
Thanks for the post. I never new Ben Chertoff personally responded to those allegations.

Could you tell me where you got that quote? I'd love to have the original source handy, or at least know where it's from if it's not on the 'net.

It's from 911myths.com, under "Others". I'd have posted the link myself, but it won't let me use URL's because I'm new.
 
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