The Real Danger of Wikileaks

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Until now I've not been particularly interested in the Wikileaks diplomatic cable release. While it might be mildly interesting to see the inner workings of US diplomacy, as I'm not an American, nor in a nation that's particularly closely aligned with America, the significance of the information revealed is not great for me.

However, today Wikileaks have given to "The New Zealand Herald" a large quantity of diplomatic cables from the US Embassy in Wellington, NZ.

The newspaper is hosting the cables on their website, but more interestingly, their political writers and editors and columnists are now having a field day "analysing" these articles.

And herein, I think, lies the true worrying danger of these Wikileak releases.

Your average person is not going to go through and read all the actual diplomatic cables. That's a labourious task, and the way the newspapers present the data, their own articles and analysis is readily accessible, but the cables less so. Most people are going to read the summaries by the newspaper staff and leave it at that. Now, that's fine, if the analysis is accurate. But what if it isn't?

I've just come across a cable from the US Embassy which is an assessment of the pharmaceutical setup in NZ, and the problems US drug companies are having trying to get their products into the market.

The newspaper categorises this cable as evidence of US pharmaceutical companies trying to meddle in NZ government affairs, and of the US government helping them. Examples include a off-hand mention that the industry tried to remove Helen Clarke as Minister of Health in 1990 (at the time of the cable Clarke was Prime Minister), and examples of pharmaceutical companies using the issue as a bargaining chip in a Free Trade Agreement discussion between USA and NZ. Opinion pieces talk of New Zealanders becoming more distrustful of big business.

The revelations of pharmaceutical political subterfuge towards Helen Clark in the 1980s [sic] might now provide further credence to her claims she was subject to foreign spying.

Some details are shocking but not surprising. Many New Zealanders would have already suspected some of the details but will still be shocked to have their suspicions confirmed.

For instance, big business is already distrusted by many New Zealanders.

But the public will be very unimpressed to find that the pharmaceutical industry attempted to have a Minister of Health removed.

As a result of the release of these cables there will be much greater public suspicion of the foreign embassies operating in Wellington.

At the moment they are viewed mostly in neutral terms, with the general idea that embassy staff are here to foster better relations between our countries.

These cables paint the embassies in quite a different colour - that they're here to further the interests of their own countries, to promote big business interests and often play a role of subterfuge or dishonest interventions in our national affairs.


HOWEVER...

If you actually read the cable in question, you get quite a dramatically different picture. Some of the positions held in the Herald analysis is just outright backwards, for example on the FTA matter, the cable actually states:

"Meanwhile, Geoff Dangerfield, chief executive of the New Zealand Ministry of Economic Development, told a U.S. drug company that his government terminated its study of patent term extension for pharmaceuticals to keep the issue as a bargaining chip in the event of FTA negotiations."

The cable is a biting criticism of NZ's health system, criticising the way the government subsidises a limited number of drugs, and is heavily hostile to the pharmaceutical industry. The end result being that patients have a very limited range of drugs they can use.

As examples:

For example, only specialists can prescribe a new treatment for diabetes. The drug's manufacturer believes 2,000 to 3,000 of the more than 100,000 diabetics in New Zealand could benefit from the medicine. But with just 50 specialists nationwide, most patients are under the care of general practitioners, and obtaining the drug is difficult. Another company reported that six out of 10 applications by doctors for reimbursement for its schizophrenia drug are rejected.

It's not pharmaceutical companies that New Zealanders should be upset at, as the Herald implies, but the New Zealand government.

The concern is that because most people aren't going to read the actual cable, but rather the newspaper summaries, and because the newspaper summaries are misleading, biased, or just outright false, people are not getting an honest picture.

I've been churning my way through the cables, and consistently the picture is of a Labour Government (most of the cables were sent during the previous government) that acts like a stroppy willful child, refusing to cooperate in even basic ways with the USA, based on a blind ideological attitude.

Some of the events are just embarassing, such as the US Embassy's communications in response to Labour's election campaigning claims that the US Government was essentially in control of the other major party's policy. The US Embassy cables make it clear that not only is this false, but the US Embassy was consistently at pains to keep out of NZ politics and try work with the government of the day as best it can.

It's a little funny, but these cables actually show the US (at least the US representatives in this country) in a pretty good light, and make our (former) government look like idiots. It's a shame that the newspaper has decided to paint a very different picture.

So, in conclusion, I am curious as to whether anyone else has come across a similar situation, where the media has been presenting the diplomatic cables in a very different light to the actual contents. Is this the terrible behaviour of one particularly bad media outlet, or part of a pattern?

Finally as an added addendum, I thought I'd share an interesting and quite shocking little discovery from the cables.

According to the US diplomatic mission the introduction of New Zealand's anti-nuclear policy in the 1980's was driven by a desire to cut military spending. Withdrawal or dismissal from ANZUS was seen as a likely consequence of the ban, and would enable the country to justify cuts at a time of financial trouble.

What's so ground-shattering about this revelation is that the Labour Party, which was government at the time, has construction the anti-nuclear stance into an event of legendary status so great it has become one of the defining features of the national psyche. The image of little NZ standing up to big bad USA on an ideological position has the status of folk-lore in this country. To learn that the event was actually a cold calculating financial decision, and that the government lied to the country about their true motivations, utterly undermines the entire mythos of the event. Most remarkable, perhaps is the revelation that expulsion from the ANZUS Treaty was part of the plan. This indeed happened, but the government of the day utilised it to further the mythos by painting the USA as a stroppy and mean spirited nation, with Labour claiming there was no reason our policy should harm the treaty.

Interesting stuff.
 
The drug's manufacturer believes 2,000 to 3,000 of the more than 100,000 diabetics in New Zealand could benefit from the medicine.

...well of course the drug manufacturer would say that.

What scientific evidence do you have that this claim is true? What drug are we talking about? Were these drugs safe? So 15 new drugs were approved, and only one of those were made freely available. Without knowing the background of the drugs involved, why do you consider this a problem?


15. (C) As a result, almost all U.S. companies in New Zealand have scaled back their staffs and their research-and-development investments since Pharmac was formed in 1993. During the past year, Eli Lilly cut 20 percent of its staff to 27 people, from a peak of 70 employees in the mid-1990s. GlaxoSmithKline has reduced its staff by 65 percent, down to about 50 people. Pfizer downsized its pharmaceutical division by 15 percent, to 60 people. Johnson & Johnson two years ago cut its staff by 10 percent, and Jan Trotman, its general manager in New Zealand, said that if conditions do not improve in 2005, the company could leave the country in three to five years. (Some staff cuts are due to the shifting of regulatory oversight from New Zealand to Australia with the scheduled launch of the trans-Tasman agency in July 2005.) The exception is Merck, where employment has remained stable and sales have increased, partly because of its higher sales of vaccines.

Where is the evidence that the staff cut backs in 2004 were caused by the creation of Pharmac in 1993?

(The industry may be paying a price for its unsuccessful effort in 1990 to unseat Clark, who at the time was health minister.)

20. (C) Finding that its direct pressure failed to alter the government mindset, the industry is now firing up pressure from below. For the last six months, RMI has been working with patient groups to make them aware of cutting-edge pharmaceuticals that are not being subsidized in New Zealand.

Lesley Clarke, RMI's chief executive officer, hopes this effort will result in increased pressure on the government to hike funding for drugs. Although Clarke said it would be too early to see results of RMI's efforts, New Zealand newspapers in recent months have reported complaints by patient groups over the lack of funding for drugs to treat breast cancer, Alzheimer's disease, and growth hormone problems.

24. (C) To complement the industry's efforts, post will work with companies to identify U.S. speakers to be brought to New Zealand and possible International Visitor Program participants, with the goal of educating New Zealand's health practitioners, policymakers and consumers on pharmaceuticals' role in health care. These programs will emphasize the advantages of expanded access to medicines and treatment
options and the link between pharmaceutical research and development and the biotechnology industry, which the New Zealand government prominently supports as a means to economic growth. By keeping drug expenses artificially low, the New Zealand government is denying consumers access to many modern medicines and failing to bear an equitable portion of the cost of developing drugs. Over the long term,
post hopes its efforts will help New Zealand strike a balance between providing affordable medicines and supporting an industry that creates cures for disease.

These are all direct quotes from your cites.

I'm having a hard time understanding exactly what you think the Herald said was misleading. Care to point out the misleading parts?

gumboot said:
It's a little funny, but these cables actually show the US (at least the US representatives in this country) in a pretty good light, and make our (former) government look like idiots. It's a shame that the newspaper has decided to paint a very different picture.

I completely disagree: I see the complete opposite. And I don't think you have shown here an example of the media saying one thing and the cables saying another. The cable clearly puts forward the position that the New Zealand government's restrictive pricing policy is wrong: as a benificary of that policy I would have to disagree.

I was all ready to agree with your original premise gumboot until I actually read the cable in question. I have no doubt that editorial bias can play a huge part in building our perceptions: but I don't think that it is the case here.
 
I was all ready to agree with your original premise gumboot until I actually read the cable in question. I have no doubt that editorial bias can play a huge part in building our perceptions: but I don't think that it is the case here.

Hmm.. NZ is a little island a long way away, so I'm not going to read all the cables and newspaper articles to see if Gumboot's premise is correct or not, but even if it is, surely the danger comes from NZ having a crap press and not from Wikileaks?
 
Your average person is not going to go through and read all the actual diplomatic cables. That's a labourious task...


It isn't such a big task given the view released cables each day, and if you concentrate on confidential/secret cables only, it takes less than 5 minutes a day to go through the released info. By the way: There is no chance that any of Manning's downloaded cables may have a top secret classification, is there?
 
hmm.. Nz is a little island a long way away, so i'm not going to read all the cables and newspaper articles to see if gumboot's premise is correct or not, but even if it is, surely the danger comes from nz having a crap press and not from wikileaks?


lol :D
 
Your average person is not going to go through and read all the actual diplomatic cables. That's a labourious task, and the way the newspapers present the data, their own articles and analysis is readily accessible, but the cables less so. Most people are going to read the summaries by the newspaper staff and leave it at that. Now, that's fine, if the analysis is accurate. But what if it isn't?

But that is simply the problem of the press reporting the news accurately. Essentially whether it is cables or a street protest or a war the consumer of any type of news is to some extent at the mercy of the news writers.

In the case of these WikiLeaks this is less so because at least you can see the very source material they took the story from itself.
 
Actually Wikileaks should release some faked Cables so that the Government is forced to provide evidence to the contrary... :p
 
...the picture is of a Labour Government (most of the cables were sent during the previous government) that acts like a stroppy willful child, refusing to cooperate in even basic ways with the USA, based on a blind ideological attitude...

...It's a little funny, but these cables actually show the US (at least the US representatives in this country) in a pretty good light, and make our (former) government look like idiots.

Keep in mind who's writing the cables.
 
Anyway, so what are the real real dangers of Wikileaks?
 
While I agree that the media can definitely put a spin on and slant the data, the media can do this already. Look at FOX News and MSNBC, for example.


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While I agree that the media can definitely put a spin on and slant the data, the media can do this already. Look at FOX News and MSNBC, for example.


Well, as far I followed the US mainstream news, they pretty much didn't talk about the rather shameful contents of the cables at all - in big contrast to international news. In this regard, hats off to the NYT.
 
Hmm.. NZ is a little island a long way away, so I'm not going to read all the cables and newspaper articles to see if Gumboot's premise is correct or not, but even if it is, surely the danger comes from NZ having a crap press and not from Wikileaks?
I also don't get the title of the thread. Gumboot is saying the leaked cables could be misinterpreted because of how the paper reported on the content, while he himself looked further than the news summary.

Gumboot, do you really think you are the only person in NZ to look at the actual content and not take the paper's summary as fact? I realize skeptics are typically a minority, but surely others will also report on their assessment in the blogosphere.

And apathy about the cables would be the case even if the paper's analysis was the same as yours, gumboot. The disinterest of people in governmental affairs is a problem in itself.

Anyway, regardless the leaks here are not the danger.
 
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Please remember that the quantity of papers released is vast. So it will take a vast number of people to read the papers to extract all the relevant information. If Gumboot (and others like him) get lucky they might find a good angle that others have not yet found.
 
I do read threw them what I have found on the iranian issue makes me less worrysome about iran it turns out the world pannics about nuclear weapons a-lot more, than the quantity that exists. And this worrying may be politically motivated. I've read threw it a bit and interepreted a-lot however, what I've read doesn't make me feel confident in those who claim that iran does have nuclear weapons. :~| rather quite the contrary it's pretty strange.
If one wants to achieve sanctions why not simply mentioon what is going on politically in Iran.
That is my impression from that part the less secret stuff about other weapons programs seam to be increadibly parnaoid probject irking to that of the cold war. which people have long forgotten.
Whats the point of wikileaks if we don't remember what we did 10 years ago?
 
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Your average person is not going to go through and read all the actual diplomatic cables. That's a labourious task, and the way the newspapers present the data, their own articles and analysis is readily accessible, but the cables less so. Most people are going to read the summaries by the newspaper staff and leave it at that. Now, that's fine, if the analysis is accurate. But what if it isn't?

The question is why people who complain now didn´t bother before the (cable)leak because this media mechanism didn´t change in the last thousand years.

You could also ask what happens if in a democratic state gatekeepers won´t process informations that might me relevant for taking political decisions (like national elections but also engaging in demonstrations or just criticize the policy of the government or the bureaucracy in public). The fact only that Clinton ordered to spy on UN officials is enough reason for me to have a closer look at all other cables. I see only one reason not to do so: the irrational believe that it would support our security if we don´t look at the contradictions that every political system even the most democratic brings with it: doublespeak and violation of highest principles.

The publication of the cables brings leads us to a huge potential for a renewal of democracy and democratic processes. I still can´t see the danger or "real danger".

Maybe you might read this explanation why El País decided to publish the leaks written by chief editor Javier Moreno.
 
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There seems to be more at work here than political establishments trying to protect their access to information as an instrument of authority. IMHO it appears the origin of the politicos anger over Wikileaks seems to be the way in which the publication of classified papers, whether they expose real secrets or not, undermines the ability of political elites to present themselves as the all-powerful guardians of secret knowledge essential to their country's well-being.
 

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