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[Emre_1974tr]

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The age of the universe is three times the age of our Earth.

Quran 50:38. We assuredly created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six days, and nothing of fatigue touched us.

Quran 41.9 Say, "Do you indeed disbelieve in He who created the earth in two days and attribute to Him equals? That is the Lord of the worlds."

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MY TURKISH ARTICLE TRANSLATED WITH TRANSLATOR

http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com.tr/2017/02/mucizelerin-devami.html

Edited by Loss Leader: 

Edited for Rule 4. Do not quote large tracts of text available elsewhere on the internet.

Edited by zooterkin: 

Edited for rule 6. Do not use all caps in thread titles.

 

[abaddon]

THE MIRACLES CONTINUE ... (SECTION 2)

The age of the universe is three times the age of our Earth.

Wrong.

Quran 50:38. We assuredly created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six days, and nothing of fatigue touched us.

Quran 41.9 Say, "Do you indeed disbelieve in He who created the earth in two days and attribute to Him equals? That is the Lord of the worlds."

The verses say the universes and our universe have been created in 6 days/stages, and our Earth is in 2 days/phases.

So the age or creation phase of the universe means three times the age of our Earth or the stage of creation.

Today, science also gives a similar knowledge: Our universe is 13.5 billion years old and our Earth is 4.5 billion years old....

Wrong.

In other words, science indicates that the age of our universe is 3 times the age of our Earth(4.5 X 3 = 13.5).

Wrong.

I answer to those who object to me saying, "But this rate is valid only in our day":

Nobody has proposed any such thing.

Our universe / universes are 6 days old, the Earth has 2 days of eviction, the age of the universe is three times the world's age, When the Quran landed.

Wrong. Arabs used to be good at math hundreds of years ago. Whatever happend to that? Oh, that was islam.

And science is introducing us with a new miracle to say the same thing.

Is it? You're flat out wrong, but feel free to present any actual evidence.

In the meantime, I would like to share my remarks in the light of the Qur'an about how the universes were created together (in Turkish):

http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com.tr/2016/05/goklerevrenler.html

Sorry, this is an english forum and the koran is a steaming pile of crap.

And this link is explained in the verses I mentioned in my study; The fact that stars are shooting light / flames may now be discovered / displayed:

https://www.upi.com/Science_News/20...ing-cannonballs-into-space/9071475783632/ph2/

No, you are making a fundamental error of retconning.

The miracles / evidences of the Qur'an are emerging and appear with ever increasing impression.

How do you account for the fact that the koran predicts nothing about QM, QFT, QED, or even satellites. I could go on, but I bet Smartphones don't appear in the koran.

Peace and love


MY TURKISH ARTICLE TRANSLATED WITH TRANSLATOR

http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com.tr/2017/02/mucizelerin-devami.html

Don't care about that wing nuttery. It looks toxic.

 

[Hans]

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Howdy: Are you Adnan Oktar also known as Harun Yahya or one of his fans?

 

[Loss Leader]

THE MIRACLES CONTINUE ... (SECTION 2)

The age of the universe is three times the age of our Earth.

Quran 50:38. We assuredly created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six days, and nothing of fatigue touched us.

Quran 41.9 Say, "Do you indeed disbelieve in He who created the earth in two days and attribute to Him equals? That is the Lord of the worlds."

The verses say the universes and our universe have been created in 6 days/stages, and our Earth is in 2 days/phases.

So the age or creation phase of the universe means three times the age of our Earth or the stage of creation.

That's not what the bible says. It says, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Earth was created on day 1. In order for your particular bit of mental arithmetic to add up, Earth would have to have been created on day 5.

You're ignoring the clear language of the bible in favor of the verses that suit your particular theory. I doubt that there is any religious authority - Jewish, Christian or Muslim - that would adopt such blasphemy.

 

[abaddon]

Let's see if you can figure anything out.

If you have a child born to you at your age of 19, the child will be zero, right?

When the child is 10 years old, what age will you be?

How many thirty year olds around the entire earth nave a ten year old child?

Isn't that amazing? Exactly two thirds? Isn't that amazing?

Well no. it is commonplace. I happen to have two kids and while I could seek back in time to find a time when either of them were a precisely a third of my age, I don't. Because that would be stupid. It is mathematically almost certain to happen unless I were Hugh Heffner.

That is simply taking your numerological crap at face value.

But to get precise, the age of the universe is currently estimated at 13.799 billion years and the age of the Earth is 4.54 billion years. No matter how you slice it, the number is not 3, and your sources are not correct.

It's just a game and you fell for it. sorry.

 

[Emre_1974tr]

No Hans, I am Emre Karaköse.

Peace

 

[abaddon]

Howdy: Are you Adnan Oktar also known as Harun Yahya or one of his fans?

Who cares?

 

[Emre_1974tr]

for those who say, including the fractions:


Our Earth is 4.57 billion years old

The universe is 13.7 billion years old.


3 times again


Greetings and Love

 

[Spindrift]

for those who say, including the fractions:


Our Earth is 4.57 billion years old

The universe is 13.7 billion years old.


3 times again


Greetings and Love

Universe - 13.72 or 13.82 B
Earth - 4.54 X 3 = 13.62.

You are off by 30+ MILLION years.

 

[abaddon]

Universe - 13.72 or 13.82 B
Earth - 4.54 X 3 = 13.62.

You are off by 30+ MILLION years.

More than that, but for now let us run with that number.

Mo got it wrong by 30 million plus years and god was so dumb as to not hand down a correction. Whee.

However, 3.5 billion years ago what was the relationship?
1:5.

We could play that game forever.

Of course this is meaningless drivel as an idea.

 

[John Jones]

Earth maths suck.

 

[Thor 2]

I may have this wrong but don't think Emre_1974tr is trying to say there is something special about the number 3. It is just that the writings of his holy book seem to match modern day science as far as proportions of Earth/Universe life.

Not very impressive mind you and out by a considerable margin. Mind you the error brings the ratio closer to the value of Pi. If it were the value of Pi that would be impressive. The God of the Old Testament had a go at giving us Pi but was not up to it.

Any other mentions of Pi in the Koran Emre_1974tr? No circular arguments now.

 

[Nay_Sayer]

I can easily disprove everything in the op with the titular Novel: Ender's Game.

Granted a different book has the answer for everything in the universe, This one defeats your argument via my own personal interpretations.

 

[Loss Leader]

However, 3.5 billion years ago what was the relationship?
1:5.

We could play that game forever.

I didn't think of it, but you're absolutely right. The relationship between the age of the universe and the earth was, at one point, Inf./1 and will approach 1/1. There's no logical reason to take our measurement at any particular intermediate point.

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

But to get precise, the age of the universe is currently estimated at 13.799 billion years and the age of the Earth is 4.54 billion years. No matter how you slice it, the number is not 3, and your sources are not correct.

I'm not following this part of your argument. 3 seems to be within the error bars for this calculation.

 

[MikeG]

for those who say, including the fractions:


Our Earth is 4.57 billion years old

The universe is 13.7 billion years old.


3 times again

And in, say, half a billion years? What then?

There necessarily has to be some point at which two things of different ages but aging at the same rate have a ratio of X:1, where X is whatever deep and meaningful number you want it to be. You also, conveniently, seem to have left off the ⁺- thing from both ages, but allowed for it in your answer. How very convenient.

Greetings and Love

This sort of thing is extremely annoying. If you want reasonable discourse here you might consider not pissing off your interlocutors with this stuff.

 

[Oystein]

Does the Quran also specify when, relative to the universe and to our planet, God created life, animals and humans? Do the proportions match reality?

 

[abaddon]

I'm not following this part of your argument. 3 seems to be within the error bars for this calculation.

Allah does not have "error bars".

 

[Emre_1974tr]

https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609802.0

Peace

 

[Myriad]

https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609802.0

Peace

This forum is not your MyFaceGram WallPageFeed. How about responding to the posts people are posting here, instead of serving up your cold leftovers that no one at free-minds.org cared enough to respond to when you posted them the first time?