"The Little Bomber"

Jas

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14 year old suicide bomber just wanted to get laid, apparently.


Seriously though, this is sick. Brainwashing kids so that they'll sacrifice themselves to further your political agenda.

"Blowing myself up is the only chance I've got to have sex with 72 virgins in the Garden of Eden," The Post quoted Husam as saying his handlers had told him.

His family said the teenager had acted strangely on Tuesday, inexplicably handing out sweets, getting his hair cut in the style his mother liked, and telling her he would do anything she wanted.
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Jas said:
14 year old suicide bomber just wanted to get laid, apparently.


Seriously though, this is sick. Brainwashing kids so that they'll sacrifice themselves to further your political agenda.
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I've seen plenty of commentary about how this shows the depravity of the terrorists (which it does), but what I've seen very little of is any discussion about the fact that Hamas and other Palestinian terrorist groups must be quite hampered operationally if they're resorting to recruiting people with so little skill and conviction. And that's a good sign.
 
geni said:
We've got a 126 post thread on this
http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=37647

I think you will find that the group behind this was pretty minor so it is not a sighn of the failing effectiveness of hamass or any other group.
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I think it still does. These groups compete with each other. Suicide bombers are a prime method of gaining influence and credibility within the Palestinian population. That's why they generally not only take credit for suicide bombers, but also identify the bomber (to prove their responsibility) even though this brings hardship on the family of the bomber when the IDF destroys their homes in retaliation. If this is another group, then it indicates increasing internal fractures among the Palestinians, which is a sign of weakness on the part of the big players, who want to hold a monopoly on the influence such attacks garner.

Civil war/anarchy within a year. That's my prediction.
Edit: meaning war between different Palestinian groups.
 
Ziggurat said:
Civil war/anarchy within a year. That's my prediction.
Edit: meaning war between different Palestinian groups.
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Israel has just knocked out Arafat's biggest rival.
 
geni said:

Israel has just knocked out Arafat's biggest rival.
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And they may yet knock him out too. And he can't live forever, even if no one kills him.

Things are certainly scary right now, but I'm actually optimistic. Many people seem to be reading the signs as prelude to disaster, but I'm reading it as signs of a possible endgame. It won't be a pretty endgame, but an actual, final endgame is still probably better than the decades of violence and stagnation we've had so far.
 
It goes without saying that those who are dragging the children into this fight are depraved imbeciles. I have a hard time feeling any sympathy for the parents who lose their children to this barbarism, claiming a "martyr's death" for them grants them entry into Heaven.

What galls me even more are these points:

(1.) Why would they even think that America would have any sympathy for their cowardly acts? If anything, in reading this, I'm angrier than ever with Hamas and its ilk, and while I don't want anyone dead, I sure as hell won't be crying when Israel pumps a few more missles into the sorry hides of these b*stards.

(2.) I'm reminded that during the 70's, most of the terrorists who were running around in Europe were the kids of wealthy parents. Osama Bin Laden and his ilk are among the richest people in their respective nations.

The suicide bombers are from poor families. They're paid blood money for the loss of their children.

I have a hard time believing that their "God" will honor Bin Laden and his ilk. More likely, they ought to burn in eternity. They damn well deserve it for the misery they've caused.
 
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Ziggurat said:
I've seen plenty of commentary about how this shows the depravity of the terrorists (which it does), but what I've seen very little of is any discussion about the fact that Hamas and other Palestinian terrorist groups must be quite hampered operationally if they're resorting to recruiting people with so little skill and conviction. And that's a good sign.
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I haven't seen discussions of operational hampering, i.e. that there truly is a paucity of adult Palestinians with intact chromosomes to serve as suicide bombers.

However, I have seen a fair number of emotional appeals that essentially reduce to "see? The Palestinians are so oppressed that they have been forced to resort to using children with Down's syndrom by those evil Israelis."

On the other hand, perhaps you are suggesting that such a paucity does exist. That, I think, would require more support. It's usually the young who suffer in warfare; perhaps there is simply a different idea of who is too young.
 
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epepke said:

On the other hand, perhaps you are suggesting that such a paucity does exist. That, I think, would require more support. It's usually the young who suffer in warfare; perhaps there is simply a different idea of who is too young.
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Regardless of whether they think sending such young kids on suicide missions is OK, its quite clear that it isn't very effective. They don't make very good suicide bombers from a purely functional perspective: they're too likely to get scared, get noticed, change their mind, etc. I don't think they would resort to using such bombers unless they were having a hard time finding willing adults.
 
geni said:


Israel has just knocked out Arafat's biggest rival.
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Which is why the recent escape of Al Quaeda's #2 is a wonderful victory for the US. Just think: they almost knocked out bin Laden's biggest rival for power in the organization! Luckily, they did the smart thing and let him escape.

By the way, someone should notify the US to call off the search for bin Laden, as well. After all, he's just a "spiritual leader", he is physically infirm (bad kidneys), and killing him would "enrage al Quaeda" and surely lead to more terror. Why is the US doing something this "irrational", just because he lead an organization that vowed to destroy it?
 
Skeptic said:


Which is why the recent escape of Al Quaeda's #2 is a wonderful victory for the US. Just think: they almost knocked out bin Laden's biggest rival for power in the organization! Luckily, they did the smart thing and let him escape.
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So Kerry is the same as the vice presedent?
 
geni said:



So Kerry is the same as the vice presedent?
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As far as israel is concerned, the "rivalry" between Arafat and Yassin is purely theoretical.

The ONLY point on which they disagree is what kind of kelptocracy will be established in "liberated Palestine" after the jews are thrown into the sea.
 
Skeptic said:
As far as israel is concerned, the "rivalry" between Arafat and Yassin is purely theoretical.
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Theoretical doesn't normaly involve shooting

The ONLY point on which they disagree is what kind of kelptocracy will be established in "liberated Palestine" after the jews are thrown into the sea.
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Prove it
 
Sadly enough (IMHO), the majority of my friends have a lot of sympathy for the Palestinian suicide bombers, and the culture which creates them. I'm noticing (and this is among ppl I know, that I thought were 'normal'), a LOT of anti-semitism.

I'm sorry, but as soon as you resort to suicide bombers (especially chldren!), you've lost all my sympathy.
 
Originally posted by Jas Sadly enough (IMHO), the majority of my friends have a lot of sympathy for the Palestinian suicide bombers, and the culture which creates them. I'm noticing (and this is among ppl I know, that I thought were 'normal'), a LOT of anti-semitism.

I'm sorry, but as soon as you resort to suicide bombers (especially chldren!), you've lost all my sympathy.
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Yep. Frightening, isn't it?
 
Sadly enough (IMHO), the majority of my friends have a lot of sympathy for the Palestinian suicide bombers, and the culture which creates them. I'm noticing (and this is among ppl I know, that I thought were 'normal'), a LOT of anti-semitism.

May I ask you something? These friends, are they (generally speaking) old-fashioned conservatives... or are they the young, "progressive", "anti-imperialist", "anti-racist", "socialist", etc., crowd?

Serious question.
 
Skeptic said:
Sadly enough (IMHO), the majority of my friends have a lot of sympathy for the Palestinian suicide bombers, and the culture which creates them. I'm noticing (and this is among ppl I know, that I thought were 'normal'), a LOT of anti-semitism.

May I ask you something? These friends, are they (generally speaking) old-fashioned conservatives... or are they the young, "progressive", "anti-imperialist", "anti-racist", "socialist", etc., crowd?

Serious question.
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You just can't help yourself anymore can you "Skeptic".
 
Skeptic said:
May I ask you something? These friends, are they (generally speaking) old-fashioned conservatives... or are they the young, "progressive", "anti-imperialist", "anti-racist", "socialist", etc., crowd?

Serious question.
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Valid question, if you ask me. Part of the problem with Political Correctness is that it provides cover for our prejudices and hatred.
 
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