The Guardian bites the Bus**tler Bullet

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Interesting to see this in today's Guardian - a double-page spread, no less, with the heading "special report". Especially surprising to see the line in bold type.

There is no way that this story came to mind other than as a result of all the internet chatter so rather than simply berating Alan Rusbridger for another one of his paper's little classics as I regularly do, I took this opportunity to write encouraging him and as many Guardian journalists as I can think of to pitch more similar "special reports" in which they follow up stories neglected in the mainstream but widely reported on the internet.

Of course, they might just ignore the request , so perhaps best to make it a "praise sandwich", with some mouldy crusts for them to chew on if they don't want to swallow the meaty bits in the middle.
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How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power

Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president

Ben Aris in Berlin and Duncan Campbell in Washington
Saturday September 25, 2004
The Guardian

George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.

The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.

The evidence has also prompted one former US Nazi war crimes prosecutor to argue that the late senator's action should have been grounds for prosecution for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

The debate over Prescott Bush's behaviour has been bubbling under the surface for some time. There has been a steady internet chatter about the "Bush/Nazi" connection, much of it inaccurate and unfair. But the new documents, many of which were only declassified last year, show that even after America had entered the war and when there was already significant information about the Nazis' plans and policies, he worked for and profited from companies closely involved with the very German businesses that financed Hitler's rise to power. It has also been suggested that the money he made from these dealings helped to establish the Bush family fortune and set up its political dynasty.

Full story at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html
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And what's more, his father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate was the evil Dark Helmet!
 
And we won't mention Joe Kennedy, or Charles Lindbergh, or the Duke of Windsor (formerly Edward VIII), or the Vatican. No Nazi implications or connections there at all either...
 
Interestingly, there is no mention that Dubya spoke out against this at the time. Not a peep. Does this mean DUbya loved Hitler? You decide.
 
When reading accounts of the 1930's it is surprising how popular Hitler was in some quarters. With hindsight, this is naturally totally reprehensible, but it does make one wonder how he would have been regarded by history if he had snuffed it in 1937 or thereabouts.

Jim Bowen
 
IBM assisted Nazi Germany with the holocaust because the Germans couldn't figure out how to kill people without IBM's expertise in running their punch card machines.

And of course there is the big Wright brother tie in and how they assisted the Nazi's by inventing the airplane that the Nazi's used with such devastating results in their war efforts.
 
Well this is "The Guardian" we are talking about...

Here is the ending of their recent review of the movie "Hero."

"Broken Sword, the philosophical calligrapher, draws two words in the sand to guide Nameless and, through him, the king - 'Our Land'. Such a message could be used with equal ease by Stalin, Chairman Mao and George W Bush."

:p

The same paper that hired Sydney Blumenthal, a hard-line Democrat partisan, to cover the US Presidential elections, and prints every bizzare conspiracy notion he has as fact.

Endless Steve Bell cartoons of George Bush as a monkey...

Steve Bell -
(Hey there was a terrorist attack in Spain. I know I will draw Bush as a monkey.)

The same paper that called Israel "cruelty beyond human understanding," yet had nothing approaching that for the tragedy in Russia recently.

The same paper that ran an editorial Sept. 13, 2001 that stated the US had 9/11 coming as people were still pulling bodies out of the rubble. And now runs editorials stating George Bush squandered all the universl sympathy that America had after 9/11
 
So is the Guardian claiming that the sins of the fathers pass onto the sons?

That anyone with grandfathers who were connected with WW2 Germany in some way (like say, 80 million current Germans) are evil, cannot be trusted, and must never run a country?
 
There was an interview with some author on Diane Rehm some months back who'd done a book on the elder Bush.
(I confess I don't recall his name, or the title)

Anyway, he said it was pretty common knowledge that Bush did, in fact, maintain buisness ties with the Reich, with the full approval of the War Department. Intelligence gathering, you see.
It was felt that this might be a potential pipeline into the inner workings of the Nazis.
 
Demon, your thread title is too long. You should have truncated it to "The Guardian bites."
 
Why make a stretch connecting Bush to Hitler through his grandfather when you can just directly connect him to the Saudis?
 
Dorian Gray:
"Why make a stretch connecting Bush to Hitler through his grandfather when you can just directly connect him to the Saudis?"

Good point.
 
Dorian Gray said:
Why make a stretch connecting Bush to Hitler through his grandfather when you can just directly connect him to the Saudis?
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Well, if you can do both then there can be no denying that he is evil personified.

I heard from Lucy Ramirez that Mary Mapes has been working on a story for over 5 years which makes the Hitler connection explicit. Dan Rather is going to break it on 60 minutes if they can just authenticate the photos of Hitler bouncing Dubya on his knee.

Right now the story is pretty much rock solid with unimpeachable sources. I think they're just waiting for the right moment in the election cycle or perhaps ratings week at the network. I'll post more as soon as I can substantiate the story. Has anyone else heard any rumors of actual truth like this?
 
Historical accounts get filtered by the views of those telling the story. Having seen how quickly we have forgotten the lessons learened during the Viet Nam years it does not surprise me that these stories lack any sense of the historical context. In the 30's most western powers were far more afraid (paranoid even) of the '"spectre" of communism than they were of Hitler and fascism. It is convenient to forget that Hitler's antisemitism was not something new and unusual but only an extreme form of a common sentiment. Many people felt that the rise of a strong Germany was a good buffer to the communist threat. Hitler was "appeased" (and even encouraged) not because the west was afraid to confront him, but because it was beleived he would be any ally against the "Red Menace".

Thus I believe it is entirely plausible that the Bush family (and many others) profited from trade with Germany, but that does not mean that they were unpatriotic. One has to view the entire context.
 
from Mike B. re The Guardian:
The same paper that ran an editorial Sept. 13, 2001 that stated the US had 9/11 coming as people were still pulling bodies out of the rubble.
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No link? Surely you don't mean this?
And now runs editorials stating George Bush squandered all the universl sympathy that America had after 9/11
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Your point being? It's a widely-held view, probably because it's so bleeding obvious.
The same paper that called Israel "cruelty beyond human understanding," yet had nothing approaching that for the tragedy in Russia recently.
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Any evidence for that? This is just one piece out of the acres of coverage and comment on the unforgiveable horror of the massacre. Do you have a link to the comment on Israel?

Sydney Blumenthal is writing a series of columns on the election. He's a good writer, and his background is made clear in each column. It's not as if he's providing the only coverage. Then you have problems with a film critic and a cartoonist. I can't take that terribly seriously myself. (Steve Bell portrays Osama as a donkey-shagger, if that makes you feel any better.)
 
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