"The Fourth Kind"

[NWO Sentryman]

I watched the Fourth Kind recently, and i don't know much about the background story, so what's the JREFers' opinions on the film and its claims?

For one, my problem is that if these events did happen, then we'd have a Black Ops coverup of the whole thing.

 

[Marduk]

I can tell you that whoever wrote it wasn't very fluent in Sumerian, so its quite easy to tell that part was just added to please the fans of Zechariah Sitchin,

no one has ever claimed to be able to speak sumerian from an abduction experience

so if that parts made up...........

The movie claims to be based on "real case studies" and real events - this has since been shown to be a lie in the vein of The Blair Witch Project or the film Cannibal Holocaust. The characters portrayed in the film are all fictitious, as an article by CNN demonstrated

the CNN article
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Movies/11/06/fourth.kind.real/index.html

 

[mactonite]

I watched the Fourth Kind recently, and i don't know much about the background story, so what's the JREFers' opinions on the film and its claims?

For one, my problem is that if these events did happen, then we'd have a Black Ops coverup of the whole thing.

I saw that movie too. It is mostly a made up story based on drunken hallucinations in Nome, Alaska. The only scary part of that movie is the actress that played the pseudo real-life doctor that Milla Jovovich was supposed to portray(I confused myself). That actress really looks like an alien!

I love how some movies are based on true events. There is so much freedom in that statement. For example, this is probably common knowledge by now but "Silence of the Lambs" and "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" were both based on the story of Ed Gein.

 

[Temecula]

I watched the Fourth Kind recently, and i don't know much about the background story, so what's the JREFers' opinions on the film and its claims?

For one, my problem is that if these events did happen, then we'd have a Black Ops coverup of the whole thing.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156788
http://www.horror-movies.ca/horror_16953.html


100% fake, right to the point of actual publications in Alaska suing the film studio. There is nothing real or original about this movie. Most of the stuff in it is a conglomeration of typical "abduction mythology" taken from the writings of Bud Hopkins (Intruders) and Whitley Strieber (Communion, Transformation and a couple other books). Some of the details of note are "Owl Imagery" from Strieber's works, and the language gimmick - in one of Strieber's accounts, the language is Gaelic.

 

[mactonite]

I change my answer from mostly made up to 100% fake! I just need confirmation from someone else(thanks Temecula) to do so. The amazing thing is that the FBI did investigate disappearances in Nome and concluded that drunkenness was the major factor.

 

[Marduk]

I love how some movies are based on true events. There is so much freedom in that statement. For example, this is probably common knowledge by now but "Silence of the Lambs" and "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" were both based on the story of Ed Gein.

As was "Psycho"
"Ed Gein: The Butcher of Plainfield" (2007) and "Ed Gein: the Musical" both may have also been loosely based on his life

 

[philkensebben]

I stopped watching about 30 minutes into it, found it horribly boring.

 

[Porterboy]

I watched the Fourth Kind recently, and i don't know much about the background story, so what's the JREFers' opinions on the film and its claims?

For one, my problem is that if these events did happen, then we'd have a Black Ops coverup of the whole thing.

Maybe, but an out-and-out forced supression would be messy and involve a lot of people, making for a top-heavy conspiracy. I think there's another possibility (and it's only a possibility): That they'd stand aside and let the film be shown, but... pretend that it's just a docudrama!

The setting is interesting, Nome. Get your atlas out and you'll see that Nome is actually one of the remotest and most inaccessible places on Earth. It lies in ther far west of Alaska right where North America meets Asia at the Bering Strait. I bet loads of stuff could happen there and nobody in the outside world would be any the wiser!

 

[Porterboy]

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156788
http://www.horror-movies.ca/horror_16953.html


100% fake, right to the point of actual publications in Alaska suing the film studio. There is nothing real or original about this movie. Most of the stuff in it is a conglomeration of typical "abduction mythology" taken from the writings of Bud Hopkins (Intruders) and Whitley Strieber (Communion, Transformation and a couple other books). Some of the details of note are "Owl Imagery" from Strieber's works, and the language gimmick - in one of Strieber's accounts, the language is Gaelic.

I'm about 95% sure it's fake. The voice of the possessed people going deep and them levitating out of the bed is cliche because of The Exorcist. I didn't think anybody would use something so unoriginal, except in a parody like in Ghostbusters.

 

[Nova Land]

By coincidence, I saw this film myself recently.

It's fiction, crafted to look as if it's a recreation of factual events. There is no Abigail Tyler. There is no video of a child being lifted out of a house, through a roof, while a deputy outside says she's being levitated out. And when the actress at the beginning says that the film uses genuine audio and video segments, that's part of the script she was assigned to read.

Wikipedia has a fairly good write-up on this:

The alleged real-life video footage and audio recordings used in The Fourth Kind are often denounced as mockumentary-style movie making. The Blu-ray release of the film includes extra footage not included in the original theater release. One of these clips shows the murder-suicide documentary footage. With the volume turned up, a person off-camera can be heard yelling "Action!"

The film's trailer states that the story is based on "actual case studies", but did not specify any cases. As a result, much speculation had arisen regarding the search for documented evidence from the actual cases and whether Dr. Abigail Tyler is a real person or a fictional character for use in an internet viral marketing campaign.^[9] Actress Charlotte Milchard was credited as "Nome resident", bearing a striking resemblance to the supposed real-life Abbey Tyler seen in the documentary footage. Her IMDB status has since been updated and confirms that she is indeed the English actress who played the "Real Dr. Abigail Tyler"...

On November 12, 2009, Universal Pictures agreed to a $20,000 settlement with the Alaska Press Club "to settle complaints about fake news archives used to promote the movie." Universal acknowledged that they created fake online news articles and obituaries to make it appear that the movie had a basis in real events.^[11]

 

[Porterboy]

By coincidence, I saw this film myself recently.

It's fiction, crafted to look as if it's a recreation of factual events. There is no Abigail Tyler. There is no video of a child being lifted out of a house, through a roof, while a deputy outside says she's being levitated out. And when the actress at the beginning says that the film uses genuine audio and video segments, that's part of the script she was assigned to read.

Wikipedia has a fairly good write-up on this:

Somebody, I read, also sent a reporter to Nome (no easy task!) and it was reported nobody there knew of any of the character or events. It's a small place as well as extremely remote, only about 3000 people live there. It's just a village really, and we all know how gossip spreads in a village. If the film was based on real events then everybody in Nome would know about them. The film producers should have put a cast list at the end, so we all knew it was fake, like with Ghostwatch.

 

[mactonite]

So there you go, tricked by Hollywood again. I believe I read that there were some people missing during the time but attributed it to drunken accidents.

 

[uruk]

I saw that movie too. It is mostly a made up story based on drunken hallucinations in Nome, Alaska. The only scary part of that movie is the actress that played the pseudo real-life doctor that Milla Jovovich was supposed to portray(I confused myself). That actress really looks like an alien!

~snip~.

I think the actresses' eyes (the playing the "real" doctor) was digitaly manipulated to add to the alien appearance.