The flood stories and other stuff.

[Dylab]

Ok I have a two part post here. If it belongs in the religion and philosophy forum, meh.

1. In highschool I remember the similarities when reading the story of the flood in Gilgamesh(sp?) and the flood in Genesis. Is there some connection or should we expect similarities in diffrent relgious stories?

2. Are there are skeptical sites that take a critical look at the supposed historical evidence that proves some supernatural aspect of the bible?

 

[Frostbite]

Ok I have a two part post here. If it belongs in the religion and philosophy forum, meh.

1. In highschool I remember the similarities when reading the story of the flood in Gilgamesh(sp?) and the flood in Genesis. Is there some connection or should we expect similarities in diffrent relgious stories?

Most of the Bible's stories have their roots in Mesopotamian mythological tales. From the creation to the pantheon to the flood to wars, they're all somewhat related.

2. Are there are skeptical sites that take a critical look at the supposed historical evidence that proves some supernatural aspect of the bible?

Not that I know of.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

Ok I have a two part post here. If it belongs in the religion and philosophy forum, meh.


2. Are there are skeptical sites that take a critical look at the supposed historical evidence that proves some supernatural aspect of the bible?

What historical evidence are you referring to?

I'm sure we could take a critical look at it here....

 

[arcticpenguin]

Most of the earliest civilizations formed along rivers. It is not at all surprising that many of them have flood myths.

 

[Upchurch]

1. In highschool I remember the similarities when reading the story of the flood in Gilgamesh(sp?) and the flood in Genesis. Is there some connection or should we expect similarities in diffrent relgious stories?

As I recall, nearly every religion has it's own variation on the flood story, even native Americans. If I can remember where I read that, I'll post the citation.

But if my memory serves, most of the themes in the Christian Bible was borrowed from earlier traditions. Virgin births, children of god(s), resurection after death, etc. all originated in older religions. I would be surprised if you couldn't find similarities.

I would venture to guess that probably the most uniquely new religion in the last 5,000 years with original mythos is Scientology.

 

[MRC_Hans]

Re: Re: The flood stories and other stuff.

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I would venture to guess that probably the most uniquely new religion in the last 5,000 years with original mythos is Scientology. [/B]

Mmmm, how about Logical Deism?

Hans

 

[CFLarsen]

2. Are there are skeptical sites that take a critical look at the supposed historical evidence that proves some supernatural aspect of the bible?

Of course:

Do You Believe in Evolution?
By Bob Riggins
Why belief in Evolution is wrong...


The Watch in the Desert
By Bob Riggins
Why the famous "Watch in the Desert" analogy doesn't hold water.


A Hard Truth
By Bob Riggins
You have to give up something to be a scientist. It may be painful, but it has to go.
What is it? It's a freedom.


Things Creationists Hate
By Bob Riggins
A satire of things that make Creationists squirm in their sleep.


The Whole Silly Flood Story
By Bob Riggins
Were pairs of every species living on Earth taken aboard the Ark? All living and extinct species? All 50 billion or so species that have ever lived on Earth? Or only land animals and birds that couldn't survive by swimming for several months?
Bob Riggins collects some really silly consequences...


Creation Research Projects
By Bob Riggins
Things for Creationists to do on a rainy day...


Those Naughty Vestigial Bits and Other Bad Engineering
By Bob Riggins
Human embryos, coccyges, goosebumps, wisdom teeth, doggie toes...they shouldn't be there!


Thermodynamics for Two, Please
By Bob Riggins
"Evolution is impossible because it breaks the Second Law of Thermodynamics." Oh, yeah? Bob Riggins has news for you...

All these articles can be found in the archives of SkepticReport.com

 

[arcticpenguin]

Re: Re: The flood stories and other stuff.

I would venture to guess that probably the most uniquely new religion in the last 5,000 years with original mythos is Scientology.

The Mormons started with the usual Christian story, but have added a lot of extra material like the presence of a Christian church in pre-Columbian America, none of it supported by archaeology.

 

[Upchurch]

Re: Re: Re: The flood stories and other stuff.

The Mormons started with the usual Christian story, but have added a lot of extra material like the presence of a Christian church in pre-Columbian America, none of it supported by archaeology.

Yeah, but it's still based on Christian mythos. What previous religious mythos is Scientology based on?

Note: This is not to be construed that I'm endorsing Scientology in any way, shape, or form. I personally find it to be very icky.