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The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.

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Please help confirm/debunk this quote:

The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.

It is attributed to William Colby.

Specifically, this quote has been sourced to this book:

Derailing Democracy: The America the Media Don't Want You to See by David McGowan.

If you use the "Look Inside" link (top left from Amazon) you can see the index (pp 226). I see no mention of Colby, not by himself, nor under Central Intelligence Agency.

Can anyone help me confirm or debunk this quote?

Assuming this book contains this quote, how reliable is the author, David McGowan?

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70s? In so far as at that point the CIA was technicaly the world's largest media organisation (there were more CIA employees feeding stories to the media than any one organisation had correspondents) it has a degree of truth.

Obvious problems would be that historicaly at least the CIA has accepted that the british media was MI6 turf and in more recent years has very firmly accepted that it isn't legaly allowed to touch US based media.
 
It seems McGowan's book is the only source for this quote, which means it has zero credibility.
 
Here's McGowan's website, where you can learn that rock music of the 1960s was a CIA plot.

Another of those icons, and one of Laurel Canyon’s most flamboyant residents, is a young man by the name of David Crosby, founding member of the seminal Laurel Canyon band the Byrds, as well as, of course, Crosby, Stills & Nash. Crosby is, not surprisingly, the son of an Annapolis graduate and WWII military intelligence officer, Major Floyd Delafield Crosby. Like others in this story, Floyd Crosby spent much of his post-service time traveling the world. Those travels landed him in places like Haiti, where he paid a visit in 1927, when the country just happened to be, coincidentally of course, under military occupation by the U.S. Marines.

If there is, as many believe, a network of elite families that has shaped national and world events for a very long time, then it is probably safe to say that David Crosby is a bloodline member of that clan .... If America had royalty, then David Crosby would probably be a Duke, or a Prince, or something similar (I’m not really sure how that **** works). But other than that, he is just a normal, run-of-the-mill kind of guy who just happened to shine as one of Laurel Canyon’s brightest stars. And who, I guess I should add, has a real fondness for guns, especially handguns, which he has maintained a sizable collection of for his entire life. According to those closest to him, it is a rare occasion when Mr. Crosby is not packing heat (John Phillips also owned and sometimes carried handguns). And according to Crosby himself, he has, on at least one occasion, discharged a firearm in anger at another human being. All of which made him, of course, an obvious choice for the Flower Children to rally around. PART 1

Another shining star on the Laurel Canyon scene, just a few years later, will be singer-songwriter Jackson Browne, who is – are you getting as bored with this as I am? – the product of a career military family. Browne’s father was assigned to post-war ‘reconstruction’ work in Germany, which very likely means that he was in the employ of the OSS, precursor to the CIA. As readers of my “Understanding the F-Word” may recall, U.S. involvement in post-war reconstruction in Germany largely consisted of maintaining as much of the Nazi infrastructure as possible while shielding war criminals from capture and prosecution. Against that backdrop, Jackson Browne was born in a military hospital in Heidelberg, Germany.

So yeah, I'd say McGowan's about as credible a source as Christopher Bollyn.
 
The link you've posted is outdated, this seems to be his working website. After asking Google to find "Colby" on that site, a reading list turned up with two source descriptions containing the term:

Burton Hersch The Old Boys, Charles Scribner's Son's, 1992
With heavy doses of disinformation, this book traces the origins of the OSS and the Central Intelligence Agency, providing details about the Dulles brothers, Richard Helms, William Donovan, William Bullit, Frank Wisner, William Casey, William Colby, and the rest of the old boy network.

Gordon Thomas Journey Into Madness, Bantam, 1989
Yet another hard-to-find book that is essential reading both for information on MK-ULTRA as well as for background information on Dulles, Helms, Colby, Casey, Gottlieb, Buckley, and various other key players in the CIA.
 
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Tina Weymouth is the daughter of a Vice Admiral of the US navy and her brother married the daughter of Katherine Graham, the publisher of the Washington Post.

Her band, the Talking Heads, performed a song called 'Don't Worry about the Government'.

Coincidence? I think not.
 
I was curious about where this quote came from and found that the only source quoted online is McGowans book. So I e-mailed McGowan and asked him where he had got it from. He did not reply.
 
It seems McGowan's book is the only source for this quote, which means it has zero credibility.

Here's McGowan's website, where you can learn that rock music of the 1960s was a CIA plot.

Ok, McGowan is out. That was easy enough.

Has Colby ever said anything remotely similar?

Has a similar been quote been attributed to someone other than Colby?

Do we have a hybrid of multiple quotes here, or total fabrication?

70s? In so far as at that point the CIA was technicaly the world's largest media organisation (there were more CIA employees feeding stories to the media than any one organisation had correspondents) it has a degree of truth.

[citation needed]

Possibly related:

Operation Mockingbird


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This looks like a gateway to wooville. Is there anything to this? Any confirmed, relevant connections between the CIA and major media?
 
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Has Colby ever said anything remotely similar?
I'm not sure Bill Colby ever said anything about anything that included any actual information, at least that could be traced back to him. Closed-mouthed old SOB, he was.
 
plus

Plus, he was DCI 30+ years ago. Even if he said it (which I doubt) he was talking about the 1970s and before... The media landscape was far, far different then...
 
[citation needed]

<ref>{{cite book |title=Flat Earth news: an award-winning reporter exposes falsehood, distortion and propaganda in the global media |last=Nick |first= Davies |year= 2008 |publisher= Chatto & Windus |isbn=0701181451}}</ref>
 
I can't find any non-McGowan source for this either.

Colby did die in a rather Tom Clancy novel sort of way, though.

Not saying there's anything suspicious about it - 10 minutes in the frigid tidal basin waters of the Northeast US watershed will end just about anyone.
 
Far less concentrated back then, indeed.

And even if that,then what? It would go against quote,which would eliminate another part of CT quoitemine.

And what does concentration have to do with owning? For some types of information you cannot get many sources,so it wouldn't matter...
 
I've been toying with an idea of a book or documentary focusing on (flash) THE MEDIA (thunderclap), but I'm having a hell of a time separating fact from fiction.

The consolidation of media by conglomerates like News Corp is a fact, easily proven due to the disclosure rules surrounding public companies. The "media-opoly" meme is well known in CT circles, and checks out.

On the other hand, we have MORE sources of indy media today then ever before. The only problem is, most indy news is just as biased and unreliable as the "corporate media". Also, many "indy" news sources are owned by conglomerates of their own; digg and reddit to name just two.

However, when it comes to the CIA, or other "propaganda opps", it is extremely hard to prove anything. The government almost always denies everything, which would make sense if it were true OR false (it doesn't really tell you anything). Most "testimony" is gathered from extremely sketchy sources, however, that doesn't automatically discredit it because most self-described "revolutionaries" are a tad sketchy.

Noam Chomsky and "Manufacturing Consent" already laid a lot of ground work here, but I'd like to bring my own research to the table also.
 
I've been toying with an idea of a book or documentary focusing on (flash) THE MEDIA (thunderclap), but I'm having a hell of a time separating fact from fiction.

The consolidation of media by conglomerates like News Corp is a fact, easily proven due to the disclosure rules surrounding public companies. The "media-opoly" meme is well known in CT circles, and checks out.

On the other hand, we have MORE sources of indy media today then ever before. The only problem is, most indy news is just as biased and unreliable as the "corporate media". Also, many "indy" news sources are owned by conglomerates of their own; digg and reddit to name just two.

Neither of those are really media. They are more media aggregators. "indy" news sources would be well indymedia.

However, when it comes to the CIA, or other "propaganda opps", it is extremely hard to prove anything. The government almost always denies everything, which would make sense if it were true OR false (it doesn't really tell you anything). Most "testimony" is gathered from extremely sketchy sources, however, that doesn't automatically discredit it because most self-described "revolutionaries" are a tad sketchy.

The CIA isn't allowed to and as far as is known doesn't touch the US media these days. In any case the classic get an inside man in a media organisation aproach isn't that widely used. Feeding stories to front line journalists is a more popular aproach but western goverments tactics are much the same as those used by private companies.

Noam Chomsky and "Manufacturing Consent" already laid a lot of ground work here, but I'd like to bring my own research to the table also.

Flat Earth News is mostly UK based but it's worth a read even if it suffers from an annoying habit of going off on a tangent.
 

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