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"That one"

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I haven’t seen anything here about McCain’s “that one” comment.

Personally I think it is indicative of McCain’s attitude toward those who he disagrees with.

I don’t think it was racist, but it was objectifying and disrespectful.

Can you imagine the brou ha ha if Obama has said it?


Although I will admit, It reminded me of that old Marlo Thomas sitcom with her nerdy fiance, Donald. ;)
 
Editorial pieces on this comment are flourishing all over the internet.
 
It was wrong. It was racist. But at this point John is out of plays. His campaign is resting on the fact that 51% of Americans are racist...

He is obviously wrong according to the polls, yet it's the only card left in the deck.

It must SUCK to be John.

p.s. I am happy to live in a 'New America"...one not influenced by comments such as, "that one".
 
I said this in another thread but....

I don't think this is a big deal, certainly not as big a deal as some are making it out to be.

I want to give people the benefit of the doubt. I don't think McCain likes Obama, in fact I think McCain despises him but I don't think this was an attempt at making an under the radar, wink wink racial comment.

I think it was just a comment, a stupid senior moment comment but nothing nefarious by any stretch.
 
"That one" = "That candidate"


Sheesh, some people sure are sensitive.
 
Anyone who sees that remark as "racial" or even derogatory, must be wearing special glasses.

I'm not a McCain fan, but insinuating that there is any malice, intended or otherwise, in that remark, is just ridiculous.
 
Of course it wasn't racist or derogatory. Might not even have been condescending or dismissive. But it doesn't have to be. It only has to APPEAR that way to hurt him in an election.
Much like Obama saying the 'lipstick on a pig' thing was obviously not aimed at Palin. McCain knew that, he has said that.
But at the time outrage was a much better strategy.
 
DanishDynamite- I don't think you seem to realize what a mean-spirited, downright nasty, person this geezer is! He was hoping that the POW card and the Seniority card would win him lot of votes, but- as he admitted in a New Hampshire interview several months ago, he did NOT see this financial credit crisis coming. Now that it has arrived, and more and more folks realize that he ought to be tied directly to George's failed policies, and that even he realizes that his staff made a colossal mistake not (properly) vetting his VP choice, now that he made another stupid financial suggestion (= buying up rotten mortgages) which will not exactly endear him to his (fiscally) conservative base, he is becoming panicky; among other reasons, because his opponent is 30 years younger, cool, energetic, and NOT at all striking more and more folks as clueless or unpresidential; McCain feels his base inching away from him and he surely can read the 'writing on the wall'; THAT's why I'm convinced that remark of his was mean-spirited....
 
DanishDynamite said:
Anyone who sees that remark as "racial" or even derogatory, must be wearing special glasses.

I'm not a McCain fan, but insinuating that there is any malice, intended or otherwise, in that remark, is just ridiculous.
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I know it's cliche to complain about politics and the "race card", but it is pretty rediculous right now. There was some congressman that said Palin was an anti-semite because she liked to hunt (?). A Chicago politician was called an "Uncle Tom" because she supported Hillary Clinton. It seems that there are some people who believe that the ONLY REASON why someone wouldn't want to support Obama is because they are racists. Maybe...they just don't support his policies?
 
If it's nothing else, it demonstrates how McCain was losing his cool. It didn't look Presidential.
 
Pookster said:
If it's nothing else, it demonstrates how McCain was losing his cool. It didn't look Presidential.
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You can certainly make that point. However, saying that this was some kind of covert racist statement is akin to saying that Obama is a covert muslim. Both claims are, IMO, bizarre and paranoid.
 
tomwaits said:
You can certainly make that point. However, saying that this was some kind of covert racist statement is akin to saying that Obama is a covert muslim. Both claims are, IMO, bizarre and paranoid.
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I personally don't think it was racist. He was losing his composure and decorum is all.
 
If anything, it may have had to do with the age difference. It seems that old politicians that have been around for awhile get easily flustered when a young "nobody" suddenly appears and challenges all their work. IIRC, Bush Sr. was really taken by surprise when his term (which included the fall of the Soviet Union and the successful defense of Kuwait) was suddenly blown apart by Clinton. I don't think he ever expected that Clinton would win.
 
Ausmerican said:
Of course it wasn't racist or derogatory. Might not even have been condescending or dismissive. But it doesn't have to be. It only has to APPEAR that way to hurt him in an election.
Much like Obama saying the 'lipstick on a pig' thing was obviously not aimed at Palin. McCain knew that, he has said that.
But at the time outrage was a much better strategy.
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Not undertood.

I was talking about the truth, what actually took place. what are you talking about?
 
noch1Narr said:
DanishDynamite- I don't think you seem to realize what a mean-spirited, downright nasty, person this geezer is! He was hoping that the POW card and the Seniority card would win him lot of votes, but- as he admitted in a New Hampshire interview several months ago, he did NOT see this financial credit crisis coming. Now that it has arrived, and more and more folks realize that he ought to be tied directly to George's failed policies, and that even he realizes that his staff made a colossal mistake not (properly) vetting his VP choice, now that he made another stupid financial suggestion (= buying up rotten mortgages) which will not exactly endear him to his (fiscally) conservative base, he is becoming panicky; among other reasons, because his opponent is 30 years younger, cool, energetic, and NOT at all striking more and more folks as clueless or unpresidential; McCain feels his base inching away from him and he surely can read the 'writing on the wall'; THAT's why I'm convinced that remark of his was mean-spirited....
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It doesn't matter whether someone is a mean-spirited, downright nasty, geezer or not. what matters is the truth.

FYI: I'm currently writing this while my keyboard has lost the letters: w, s, a, + z
 
DanishDynamite said:
Anyone who sees that remark as "racial" or even derogatory, must be wearing special glasses.

I'm not a McCain fan, but insinuating that there is any malice, intended or otherwise, in that remark, is just ridiculous.
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You're right of course. Still, it's fun to play with, even if Obama didn't mean anything by it. It's not like the McCain supporters don't have a field day with anything that Obama says that could possibly be misinterpreted.
 
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