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Ted Stevens Guilty

The GOP Just cannot catch a break this year.
I really though, consdiering all the bizarre happenings with the jury, that Stevens would get off, since in most cases a lot of unusual stuff going down with a jury indicates acquittal.
 
Let me be the first to say - GOOD RIDDANCE. Shame we can't send incompetent Barney Frank and Countrywide VIP Chris Dodd out to pasture too.
 
Wanna bet he yelled "NO!" just like in his famous response about the bridge? :D
 
This is the first time that I realized he's running for reelection this year. One poll had him down by 1%.

Question:
Were his ethical transgressions such that one could see that the main effect of them was to promote Alaskan interests over the general interest?

If that were true, and you were an Alaskan looking to maximize his self interests might you still judge it to be in your interest for Stevens to win over a probably more honest opponent?

And one quick answer might be that this conviction is going to strongly damage his ability to bring home the port anyway and maybe it's still better to vote for the other guy? Or maybe it's better to vote for the other guy because as a member of the majority party he's going to have better opportunities to bring home the pork anyway?
 
It is going to be hard to vote on issues and bring home the pork from a room in Club Fed.
The guy has been convicted of Seven felonies. This is not a misdemeanor like Sen. Craig.
He is toast.
 
Palin has stated the she is sure Stevens will "do the right thing",which is polite way of saying "resign",and I suspect other GOPers will call upon Stevens to "do the right thing" and fall upon his sword.
 
I don't really think this can be considered a blow to the GOP. Nobody really liked him.
 
kallsop said:
Let me be the first to say - GOOD RIDDANCE. Shame we can't send incompetent Barney Frank and Countrywide VIP Chris Dodd out to pasture too.
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Consider me incompetent. But what has Barney Frank done? I would really like to know.

<<not a troll...just looking for EVIDENCE to base many different decisions>>

Scottch
 
tomwaits said:
I don't really think this can be considered a blow to the GOP. Nobody really liked him.
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He is like Tom DeLay in the HOuse...a lot of people in his own party hated his guts,but had to tolerate him.

BTW, tomwaits, we watched "Bram Stroker's Dracula" this weekend....and you were GREAT as Renfield:D
 
davefoc said:
This is the first time that I realized he's running for reelection this year. One poll had him down by 1%.

Question:
Were his ethical transgressions such that one could see that the main effect of them was to promote Alaskan interests over the general interest?
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No. A lot of it involved a contractor who got a sweet deal doing renovations on Stevens' house.
 
I'm having my kitchen redone, in a relatively modest way. Since this is the NYC suburbs, it's still very expensive. I am going to speak with my contractor to see whether he will give me back the (approx) $30,000 I've already spent. And do the rest for free.

Heck, I never knew contractors were such good guys.

(NB: our contractor is a good guy. I think he regards our 80-year old, several times added-onto house which has had several DIY owners as a real hoot and a kind of special project. But he still makes sure to cash my checks pronto.)
 
If Stevens wins the Senate election (and he is still slightly ahead) and is forced to resign, is there any chance that Palin will run for the open spot?
 
leftysergeant said:
No. A lot of it involved a contractor who got a sweet deal doing renovations on Stevens' house.
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Absolutely, but still that might be seen as Stevens getting a little reward for getting federal money for contractors into Alaska. Something that profits Alaskans.

And then even if one decides that what Stevens has done is against Alaskan interests and therefore worthy of being voted out, one still might vote for him so that Palin will appoint a Republican replacement.

It seems like that right now 46% of Alaskans or thereabout see it something like that.
 
Tricky said:
If Stevens wins the Senate election (and he is still slightly ahead) and is forced to resign, is there any chance that Palin will run for the open spot?
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Is there anything in Alaskan law that would prevent her from appointing herself to Senator?
 
On another board they mentioned that in Alaska the Senator's replacement would be via special election rather than appointment. So if he gets elected and then resigns/gets expelled... I guess Alaska would have to pay for another election in a couple months.
 
Not only that, on his campaign stump speeches he's saying "I haven't been convicted of anything."
Apparently feeling that the fact he's filing an appeal nullifies the conviction....

And this guy is a "lawmaker".
 
Bikewer said:
Not only that, on his campaign stump speeches he's saying "I haven't been convicted of anything."
Apparently feeling that the fact he's filing an appeal nullifies the conviction....

And this guy is a "lawmaker".
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It's amazing the amount of denial this guy is going through, I think when those bars finally slam into his face, reality will finally settle in.
 
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