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Teaching religion insincerely

lionking

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Although I was brought up a catholic, I rejected it in my early teens and my children (a very catholic-like seven of them) were brought up without religion (sorry Jet Leg). Anyway my eldest daughter qualified as a teacher, went to London on a working holiday and got a job at a catholic primary (elemental) school. By way of clarification, you do not necessarily need to be catholic, but must profess to hold catholic ideals (!) to teach in a catholic school in the UK.

Needless to say my daughter was given religious instruction classes. At first I was amused with her calls from the other side of the world asking me to explain the trinity and transsubstantiation and how to pronounce Gethsemene. In her view it was just a subject and she just had to prepare like any other subject. It didn't matter to her whether she believed or not. This would have been unthinkable in my school days, several centuries ago.

I must admit to a bit more unease when I discovered that she was replacing hold water in the class when it ran out with tap water. "What do a couple of words from a priest do?" was her quite reasonable response.

So my question is, can religious instruction be properly taught be a competent teacher or must it be a believer?

Interestingly she is now home and looking for a job in the catholic system because the pay's a bit better and there's a bit more support and discipline.
 
Although I was brought up a catholic, I rejected it in my early teens and my children (a very catholic-like seven of them) were brought up without religion (sorry Jet Leg). Anyway my eldest daughter qualified as a teacher, went to London on a working holiday and got a job at a catholic primary (elemental) school. By way of clarification, you do not necessarily need to be catholic, but must profess to hold catholic ideals (!) to teach in a catholic school in the UK.

Not sure what the position is in England, but in Scotland you need the approval of the Catholic Church.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4787496.stm

"We note with interest, however, the tribunal's finding that all appointments to all posts in Catholic schools require the approval of the Catholic Church."

"What do a couple of words from a priest do?"

Get you fired, if they want to.
 
I understand Athon currently works in a Catholic school. PM him to jump in here.
 
lionking said:
So my question is, can religious instruction be properly taught be a competent teacher or must it be a believer?
EDIT: Not sure.

I'll go ahead and wait for Athon.
 
I must admit to a bit more unease when I discovered that she was replacing hold water in the class when it ran out with tap water. "What do a couple of words from a priest do?" was her quite reasonable response.

James Randi related a couple of amusing stories from his youth in The Faith Healers.

The first recounted a visit to the gift shop at a local church. He was standing where a priest did not notice him. The priest was carrying a bag full of little crucifixes and proceeded to dump about half of its contents into a basket marked "Blessed in Rome". He then poured the remainder from the same bag into an adjacent basket marked "Blessed Here" (I forget the name of the church).

The next story recounted how he and another boy had been sent from the family tailor business with a bolt of cloth for the church. They were instructed to cut it up into small squares that were then pinned to cards and sold as genuine pieces of the robe worn by an especially pious man who had resided at the church.
 
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The first recounted a visit to the gift shop at a local church. He was standing where a priest did not notice him. The priest was carrying a bag full of little crucifixes and proceeded to dump about half of its contents into a basket marked "Blessed in Rome". He then poured the remainder from the same bag into an adjacent basket marked "Blessed Here" (I forget the name of the church).

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Hey. Kill them all. God will sort them out.
 

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