T.C. Albin and snow in July

Beleth

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Beleth
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You know, KRAMER, if there's a "low-hanging fruit" section of the JREF Challenge, this one would surely fall into it.

Ask him, as the preliminary test, to make it snow enough in Jerusalem on August 1, 2005 to leave 3 inches of snow on the ground.

Sure, it's a ridiculous claim, so the test should be trivial to set up.

The final test would be to make it 80 degrees F at the North Pole on December 21, 2005, or something like that.




Or better yet, have him make it snow on that other guy's magical floating turds.
 
Actually, that claim is easy to meet because there are so many places in the world that defy accepted generalised conventions. For example, "There's no snow on the equator because it's the tropics"...how about on Kilimanjaro?? Or the Andes of Peru?

Really, it's a pretty frivilous claim.
 
But he's talking about unseasonable weather. A lot depends on how you define "unseasonable". I think I'd define it as "weather that's routine at another time of year for the area but not for this time of year." So maybe my snow-in-Jerusalem test isn't a good one. It depends on whether it ever snows in Jerusalem, and I don't honestly know. I'm sure, though, that my 80-at-the-North-Pole test isn't a good one.

My point is that the more absurd the claim, the easier it should be to shoot down. This is an absurd claim, and it should be easy to shoot down. It's the endless hemming and hawing after the first pass at a test protocol that's going to be truly absurd... but it's not until the challenge gets to that phase that it can reasonably be dismissed as absurd.

IMHO, of course.
 
yep, it does snow in Jerusalem

Snows in Tel Aviv now and then, too!

always will remember the freak snowstorm on my son's birthday 1992 -- had to drive to the hospital in it !!!

Here's typical photo of J'lem covered in flakes.
(happens relatively often, due to the elevation of the city)

2003-02-26_Jerusalem_snow_TempleMount.jpg
 
Beleth said:
You know, KRAMER, if there's a "low-hanging fruit" section of the JREF Challenge, this one would surely fall into it.

Ask him, as the preliminary test, to make it snow enough in Jerusalem on August 1, 2005 to leave 3 inches of snow on the ground.

Sure, it's a ridiculous claim, so the test should be trivial to set up.

The final test would be to make it 80 degrees F at the North Pole on December 21, 2005, or something like that.




Or better yet, have him make it snow on that other guy's magical floating turds.
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As i understand the claim, he needs to be in the area, where he wants to change the weather, though he doesn't tell how long before the intended wheather change. He also seems to be unprecise by +-1 day.

But he lives in california.

KRAMER, why don't you offer him a simple, safe and easily checkable test protocol for prelim(assuming he lives beneath 500 m):

Snow(not hail) on 1st,2nd or 3rd of June and on 1st,2nd or 3rd of July and the same for August wherever he is living.


Cannot see how he could cheat, chance for that is also pretty small and checking the test result would require 1 phone call.
If he rejects this test protocol, then i think it is ok, to reject his claim.

Carn
 
CptColumbo said:
Be sure to mention that he cannot bring the snow himself, and drop it on the ground in one big heap.
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Success criteria coulb be that several metreological institutes confirm there was snow fall on these days, then "bring the snow" will not work.

Ok, he could fool or bribe the institutes, but that seems to be diffcult to do 3 times.

Carn
 
There's no place like home....

His "claim" specifically offers to make it snow in July, in Kansas.

I think we'll just have to take him up on that.

Anyone here willing to make a bet with me that we'll never hear from him again?

Poppies. Poppies. Poppies.
 
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