Sylvia Browne and "Waylon Robbins"

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My first guest says that her 12-year-old son was found dead and wonders if there was plou--foul play. Please welcome Misty to the show. Where's Misty?

MISTY: Thank you.

WILLIAMS: Why don't you tell Sylvia what happened? This was an afternoon. He should have come home, and he didn't, right?

MISTY: He did come home. My brother was baby-sitting him. He was outside playing. He--I came home at 5:30 and found out my brother hadn't seen him since 4:00 in the afternoon. I immediately started making phone calls. This is at 5:30. No one had seen him since he'd gotten off the bus. So...

Ms. BROWNE: And that wasn't like him?

MISTY: Not at all.

Ms. BROWNE: I know.

WILLIAMS: And they went...

MISTY: Not at all.

WILLIAMS: And they kept searching, right? Well, you di--you didn't really search.

MISTY: I went out and looked for him.

WILLIAMS: The police came by your house, correct?

MISTY: Yes, they did.

WILLIAMS: And at one point in time, did they not look in the back yard?

MISTY: With a spotlight. As he was pulling out of my driveway, he had the spotlight on, and it shined right back there.

WILLIAMS: You saw nothing?

MISTY: There was nothing there.

WILLIAMS: So how many hours later did they find your son there?

MISTY: An hour and a half.

WILLIAMS: Was he in the same area that that light was shined?

MISTY: Yes. Yes.

WILLIAMS: So now do you think that he was put there after the police left, or may he have been there...

MISTY: That's what I believe, yes.

WILLIAMS: S--and you want to know from Sylvia what?

MISTY: If i--there was foul play, or if this is really an accident. My son was found--there was a--a rope from one tree to the next. He was found in the middle, on his feet with a ring around his neck. He died of asphyxiation by strangulation. He was attached to a bandanna, his chin resting in a bandanna.

Ms. BROWNE: No, this--this wasn't his doing. This was foul play. This was other kids. They were playing this stupid game.

MISTY: It's a game?

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, some game.

MISTY: Can you tell me how long he was deceased for?

Ms. BROWNE: See, what really aggravates me is when they shine the light back there--shone the light--English teacher--shone the light, he was there. They just didn't--they skimmed over it. He was there.

MISTY: He was? When I held him, warm air came out on my--my neck. I thought we had time until I realized it was me squeezing him.

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, the--the air from the lungs was...

MISTY: Right.

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah.

MISTY: Right. The detective told me that kids, a month prior to Waylon's death, had been using bandannas to asphyxiate themselves to get high.

Ms. BROWNE: That's what I'm saying. That's...

WILLIAMS: Well, yeah, and--and that--that's--when I say that, I'm not trying to--I don't want to give too many details about this...

Ms. BROWNE: No. We don't want to...

WILLIAMS: ...right now on the show because I don't want other kids copying this.

MISTY: Yeah. I mean, I just don't understand how the rings got around his neck like this, and he was on a bandanna.

Ms. BROWNE: Well, he didn't put it there, hon. He didn't put it there. There were two or three other kids that did it.

MISTY: Two or three other children?

Ms. BROWNE: Yes.

MISTY: Do you know who they are?

Ms. BROWNE: Well, they're right in the s--they're right in your neighborhood, in the area, in the school, every--you know. I mean, they're...

MISTY: OK. Someone that goes--he goes to school with?

Ms. BROWNE: Well, one of the--the kids is named Danny.

MISTY: OK. OK.

WILLIAMS: So I would look in the--and especially if the police have--have some knowledge of this having happened and if there...

Ms. BROWNE: The only thing that bothers me is I don't think the kids meant to. You know, I--see, that's--and I agree with Montel. You don't want to give out too much information, but I don't think kids know what they're playing with. You know, it's like snuffing. You know, that--you know, what...

WILLIAMS: Or huffing, yeah.

MISTY: Well, that's what I blame, you know?

Ms. BROWNE: ...or huffing, rather, with aerosol.

MISTY: I mean, how simple, a bandanna. It's not drugs, you know what I'm saying? 'How can it hurt me?'

WILLIAMS: Yeah, and that--that's the problem. I mean, you know...

MISTY: Exactly. Exactly.

WILLIAMS: ...with this--this insatiable desire for us to find...

Ms. BROWNE: For a high.

WILLIAMS: ...the next buzz and the next high, kids are trying to do this because they think that this is gonna--and--and it doesn't. Exact...

MISTY: And it costs a dollar.

WILLIAMS: Right. ...(Unintelligible).

MISTY: I mean, there was a red bandanna that came up missing, also, that was tied around his leg that has never been found.

Ms. BROWNE: See--well, I think for some reason the cops took that, but what I'm telling you is I don't think your son had any idea what was going on. He was almost a hapless victim of somebody saying, 'Let's see what we can do.' Do you see what I'm saying?

MISTY: Yes. Yes, I do.

WILLIAMS: All right. Thank you.

MISTY: I do, thank you.

WILLIAMS: I'm sorry. Let me take a little break. We'll be back right after this.

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MISTY: Well, Montel, since the show with you and Sylvia, my brother was arrested in the murder of my son, Waylon Robbins. He was charged with second-degree murder. He confessed to it. Sylvia said that someone named Danny was involved in Waylon's murder. My brother's name was Daniel. Sylvia also said there were three names that came to her mind. My brother was given three names at birth, Daniel, Shawn and eventually Martin. I'd like to say to Sylvia: Thank you for giving me the inspiration to go on with this story. Without what she told me, I would have been at a loose end. I want to thank her with--the bottom of my heart for helping me in this.

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I tried looking this up but can't find anything and believe me, I tried.

The episode aired May 7, 2003 Wednesday but was probably taped way before. After all, the police had time to apprend the killer in the meanwhile.
 
Claims:

This was foul play - True

This was other kids - ??? (What does this mean? Apparently some children were present when this happens, but Sylvia seems to be implying that the children were responsible for what happened.)

They were playing a game - False

Two or three other kids did it - False

One murderer was a child named Danny - False (The murderer was in his late 20s - 28 is my guess based on Misty's opening post on the Murder Victim board).
 
And I would hope that the brother, being that old, wouldn't go to the same school as the child, as Sylvia clearly stated.
 
Thanks a lot, Prewitt, I knew the transcript must have misspelled an unusual name again.

I'm particularly appalled by this one. It's such a gruesome and disturbing crime and Sylvia's explanation for it is so ill fitting and convoluted. "Some kids", please. It was obvious to me it wasn't an accident but she was playing it safe and going with what the police said.

That's another danger of psychic detectives: they say it's foul play when it's not and say it's not foul play when it is.

Speaking of the police, I've been wading through tons of cases lately where it seems to me that if the police had only done their job, the family might never have even met Sylvia Browne. Not to preach but in this case, I think police negligence is completely to blame.

Misty only turned to a psychic when the police failed her...and when she hired a PI, he solved and closed the case before the Montel episode aired! Here's hoping she won that lawsuit against them.
 
Has anyone found any articles about the trial, or at least about the uncle being arrested? It seems odd that there is nothing to be found about this other than the tributes.
 
She says in the murdervictims thread that he entered into a plea bargain for 7-18 years and was sentenced to the full 18. I'm still looking for an article, but haven't found anything yet.
 
Whatever that SOB got, it was too little.

Robert: on the tribute video, she says that the boy was actually killed because he was trying to protect his younger sister from the uncle.

This effectively blows Sylvia's claim that he was killed in a game gone bad to smithereens.

Edit: Isn't it odd that what we see as Sylvia proven demonstrably wrong and how, Misty interpreted as a success?! She got everything wrong, except the name "Danny", which I'd give her a point for, except that "Danny" WASN'T EVEN SUPPOSSED TO BE THE KILLER! She clearly said so herself. As in fact, there was no murder :snort:.
 
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As I read the transcript, even though Sylvia says yes to foul play, she seems to imply that it's an accident that happened when the kids were trying to get high through strangulation. I've never heard of that. I have heard of strangulation used to enhance orgasm (especially among kids).

As usual, she seemed to cover all the bases by saying foul play, then talking about "this stupid game" the kids were playing. Oh yeah--and saying "I know" to every bit of information given to her.

And "Danny" is definitely not a hit (as per Misty's generous shoehorning) since Sylvia said "Danny" was one of the kids.
 
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Yeah, I've never heard of auto-asphyxiation to get high. Also, is she implying they were "huffing", as in inhaling household products to get high, or not?! :confused:

I agree. Let me call this one:

Sylvia Browne's score: ZERO
 
Yeah, I've never heard of auto-asphyxiation to get high. Also, is she implying they were "huffing", as in inhaling household products to get high, or not?! :confused:

I agree. Let me call this one:

Sylvia Browne's score: ZERO

I have heard of auto-asphyxiation to get high. Mind you this sort of thing was more popular cira 1940's and before.

Correction: It's still around.
 
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No way. :confused: I learn something new every day on this board. You can get high from choking yourself?!?

Why would anyone, enspecially a kid, ever want to do that? Where's the fun in making yourself pass out? Jesus, why not just get drunk?

And how does that fit in with huffing? He snorted kitchen cleaner and then hung himself?
 

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