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Sydney lawless?

arcticpenguin

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http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,7591017%5E2702,00.html

His efforts to stem the violence and save the reputation of his community came as NSW Opposition spokesman Peter Debnam painted a dire picture of life in Sydney's south-western suburbs.

"There's about 1000 young men, typically between 18 and 30, who are basically running Sydney at the moment," he said on Sydney radio.

"It's not the Government running Sydney, it's not the police running Sydney, it's about 1000 young men."
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That sounds like a pretty bad, lawless situation. Any comments from Sydney residents?
 
arcticpenguin said:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,7591017%5E2702,00.html


That sounds like a pretty bad, lawless situation. Any comments from Sydney residents?
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These are comments by the opposition. If they get elected...the crime would "vanish" and the new opposition (the ex government) would be telling us that crime is out of control.

It is a basic political fact that if you can convince voters they are in danger from criminals and that you will put more of them in prison than the other guy...they will vote for you...The crime card is a standard road to government. A large percentage of people in prison are there to help elect politicians. At least our politicains can't execute people to get elected, but I'm sure they would if they could.
 
My brother lives in Sydney. You'd be amazed how often he doesn't get bashed, mugged, rapped, killed, raped again before being murdered.

It's a combination of scare-mongering from the opposition (which, as The Fool says is a noble tradition in politics: after all, the government, lead by Mr Bob "They're Taking Over, You Know" Carr, uses these exact same tactics around election time) and the usual xenophobic hysteria. This time it's Lebanon's turn. The Lebs are coming! The Lebs are coming! And they're ten feet tall!

There was a shoot-out, which was a BIG news item down here because pitched shoot-outs are so rare, resulting in the deaths of two people. Bobby Carr said "If these people can't abide by our laws, then they should ship out (of Australia)". Alas, it's looking more and more like the perps are Australians citizens. Might be tricky shipping them out, hate-monger...
 
I remember reading that crime rates have been falling pretty much for the last 15 years around the "first world."

Yet strangely, crime is MORE of an issue for politicians than ever before...

P.S. I should qualify that Japan is bucking the trend of falling crime. However, their crime rate was very very low to begin with.
 
Mike B. said:
I remember reading that crime rates have been falling pretty much for the last 15 years around the "first world."

Yet strangely, crime is MORE of an issue for politicians than ever before...

P.S. I should qualify that Japan is bucking the trend of falling crime. However, their crime rate was very very low to begin with.
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Don't forget the media's role as well.

One of Murdoch's papers, the Daily Helegraph, likes to point out to its readers, in lurid details, how swamped with illegal drugs Australia is. For example, an attactive young teenager died from taking an XTC tablet, and you never heard the end of it. I think a few others died that year... due, in no small part to the Helegraph's 'drug advice' which said to potential XTC users that they should drink lots of water. Of course, if you drink too much water...

Their latest is pretty funny too. A couple of journos went to Katoomba for an article on how the mountain town is in the death grip of illegal drugs. Of course, they HAD TO HAVE a photo of someone using drugs. AND IT HAD TO BE THE REAL THING, TOO! NO SIMULATIONS! OR THE NEWSPAPER WOULD BE A LAUGHING STOCK!

So they paid a kid to score some drugs and smoke it in front of them for their photo.

The Daily Tele: Fighting the war against drugs by... erm... buying them?
 
Oh yeah! This is a frontier town, folks! Wild wallabies running through the streets of this town at high noon, lotsa tumbleweeds and guys in multi-coloured ponchos, big black hats, and chewing old cigars. Oh, and strange harmonica-music in the background.

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Like Fool says, all an election stunt. While there are indeed crimes in NSW, many involving drugs, and the odd few with guns, we are certainly not barricading ourselves in our houses and quaking in fear in our panic rooms!

BTW, Debnam is the shadow police minister (i.e the opposition watchdog). So what else do we expect him to say? The incumbent government is doing a good job???
 
Zep said:

BTW, Debnam is the shadow police minister (i.e the opposition watchdog). So what else do we expect him to say? The incumbent government is doing a good job???
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It's what the federal Labor party under Beazley did. Whether they meant to or not.
 
a_unique_person said:


I don't understand the current Labor Party. They don't seem to realise that people won't vote for "John Howard Lite" when they can vote for the real thing.
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I love this meme... :D

We get it in the States, too.
 
Mr Manifesto, what other quotes have you got from Alpha Centauri? I remember reading through them and thinking that some clever person had written them =)
They´re pretty intelligent for a game.

I live in Adelaide, so I´m a bit off, but I can say that this soudns just like a stupid election stunt. The Labor party has bucklies chance of winning the next election, so they´re trying things like this. Good luck to them I suppose, as long as they don´t go scaring the Sydnians who never go out, to continue never going out.
 
komencanto said:
The Labor party has bucklies chance of winning the next election, so they´re trying things like this. Good luck to them I suppose, as long as they don´t go scaring the Sydnians who never go out, to continue never going out.
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This report refers to a state politician named Debnam, who happens to be a Liberal (that would be the rough equivalent of Republican, for our US friends). The Labor Party (sorta equivalent to Democrats) has been in government in NSW for a decade or so now, and pretty much cruisin'.

But you are right - the federal Labor Party is on a hiding to nothing at this time. As popular as a pork chop at a Bar Mitzvah.
 
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