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Suspicious missing toddler close to home.

Skeptic Ginger

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Here's the latest ridiculously suspicious story about a missing kid and it is only a couple miles from here.

Supposedly the mom ran out of gas and took an older kid but left the toddler in the car while she went to get gas. Puhleeese! No one would do that. The mom claims she's not even sure if she locked the car doors.

Police searching for missing 2-year-old Bellevue boy
Police say the boy was in a car with his mother and 4-year-old sibling when they ran out of gas around 8 a.m. in the 2400 block of 112nd Ave NE, said Carla Iafrate with Bellevue police.
The mother took the 4-year-old with her to go get help, but left the toddler in the car. About an hour later, she returned to the car and the toddler was gone.
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I know where this car was and there are houses near there. I'll bet the mom has a cell phone and claims it wasn't with her. I can see trying to cover up an accident or murder, but this story is too absurd.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Supposedly the mom ran out of gas and took an older kid but left the toddler in the car while she went to get gas. Puhleeese! No one would do that.
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I don't know about the rest of the story, but if the toddler was sleeping, I'm sure there would be mums who would leave them in the car. It's a really stupid thing to do, but there are plenty of stupid people around.
 
Professor Yaffle said:
I don't know about the rest of the story, but if the toddler was sleeping, I'm sure there would be mums who would leave them in the car. It's a really stupid thing to do, but there are plenty of stupid people around.
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I think that definitely is a possibility. Stupidity explains a lot of things. And as we all know, there's plenty of that around.
 
For an hour? While you went to find a gas station? I'm not talking about running into the store with the baby in the car in the lot.

The street this was on runs parallel to the freeway. On the freeway side is a big wall for a half mile in both directions. Looking at this map image there are nothing but houses and a church building that looks like it is now a school. The freeway side is all wall. You don't see the half cloverleaf from the street.

There is nothing within sight that looks promising for a gas station. No, even a stupid person would not abandon their child in a car in search of a gas station. You'd go look for someone who was home that would help you. It's a nice neighborhood with nice clean suburban homes. Nothing too rich and intimidating and nothing too rugged and worrisome.

I'm pretty sure the cops are already suspicious. They've suspended the search.

The mom is in the middle of a divorce. This does not look good for the kid.
 
I don't know about how it looks, but it's not an inherently incredible story. Taking an older, active child who can walk independently, but leaving a sleeping toddler (possibly strapped into a child seat) is a very very unwise thing to do, but I can well imagine someone doing it.

I recall a friend of mine, who is a doctor, leaving her two-year-old sleeping in the car strapped in his child seat, while we took her two older children to a fair. I imagine we were there about an hour. The car was parked in a field with a lot of other cars, the field was the designated car park for the fair. When we returned, Peter was still sleeping peacefully. He's in his early 20s now, graduated from university earlier this year.

Rolfe.
 
Rolfe said:
I don't know about how it looks, but it's not an inherently incredible story. Taking an older, active child who can walk independently, but leaving a sleeping toddler (possibly strapped into a child seat) is a very very unwise thing to do, but I can well imagine someone doing it.
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Yeah, but you'd think that someone would at least triple-check that the doors are locked.
 
There was the case earlier in the year where an Italian tot died after being left in the car by the father who forgot to drop her off at nursery. Plenty of horrible things happen because people make mistakes, not by intentional malice.
 
> Police say

sounds promising that the police say this, not only the mum...


> the boy was in a car with his mother and 4-year-old sibling

so we have a witness: the 4-year-old sibling


> About an hour later, she returned to the car and the toddler was gone.

Would be nice to know if also the 4-year-old sibling returned to the car, and was with the mom all the time.


Hmm. The kid might also be alive, a kidnapping orchestrated by the momma.
 
Can someone with more hands on knowledge of these critters tell me if a kid that age could get out on his own? 'Cause random kidnapping would seem really strange.
 
Tsukasa Buddha said:
Can someone with more hands on knowledge of these critters tell me if a kid that age could get out on his own?
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The news article at least implies that he was in a child seat; if he was strapped in one, he'd have to i) get off the seat and ii) get a door open. There is no mention of any of the car doors being open when the mother came back, so he'd also have to iii) close a car door behind him.

I don't have much experience with 2-year-olds, but I suspect it gets less and less likely with each step.
 
Tsukasa Buddha said:
Can someone with more hands on knowledge of these critters tell me if a kid that age could get out on his own? 'Cause random kidnapping would seem really strange.
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I had five and they were all able to contort their bodies to get out of their cars seats even when strapped pretty securely. I would never leave my children alone in a car anywhere. But I have know good and intelligent people who thought nothing about leaving a sleeping baby in a car to go into the store. One even had to call the police because the keys were locked in the car.
Ideas about what to do with children have changed over time and also by the culture the parent is from.
 
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commandlinegamer said:
There was the case earlier in the year where an Italian tot died after being left in the car by the father who forgot to drop her off at nursery. Plenty of horrible things happen because people make mistakes, not by intentional malice.
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I fully understand that a person could have a brain fart and do something really dumb, which could end up having tragic consequences like accidentally leaving a sleeping child in the car, especially if your routine has been disrupted somehow.* It'd have been one thing if the mother had said that she forgot the toddler in the car, but the article implies she did it on purpose. I have much less sympathy for something like that.

*This actually happened to me. I was only a few weeks old when my mom dropped the car off at a tire place to get the tires changed. She got my then 4 year old brother out of the car, as well as me then 8 year old sister, started walking across the parking lot to the store in order to shop while the car got its tires replaced, then realized she was missing something... When she got back to the tire shop, the car was up on the lift, and I was still sleeping in the back seat.
 
Tsukasa Buddha said:
Can someone with more hands on knowledge of these critters tell me if a kid that age could get out on his own? 'Cause random kidnapping would seem really strange.
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Early 2, highly unlikely, almost 3, definitely possible.

Well today I was giving flu vaccine to the city fire fighters. Apparently the police recruited them to search the fields and wooded areas nearby. It doesn't sound like many involved believe the mother.

The search has been called off.



I agree it will be interesting what the 4 yr old has to say, if anything.
 
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The dad is speaking out now. He doesn't believe his ex-wife's story. It sounds like there is a custody battle and he hasn't seen his kids in almost a year.

She said she left Sky in the unlocked vehicle and walked with her daughter, who is 4, about a mile to a gas station. ... There was no gas can at the car, police said.
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The FBI has joined the case.The 4yr old has been put in protective custody and the police searched the mom's house.

Both parents were convicted of leaving the kid in the car before and had to take parenting classes.
In December 2009, Redmond police cited both parents for reckless endangerment at the Target parking lot. A shopper who heard the baby crying in the SUV called police, and a responding officer reported that the car felt cold.

Paged inside the store, the couple said they had left the baby in the car for 15 to 20 minutes because they didn't want to wake him up. Surveillance video of the parking lot later proved it had actually been 55 minutes.

The case was dismissed early this year after the pair completed a year of probation, 40 hours of community service and a 10-week parenting class.
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Story is full of weird twists.
The couple had been together for 14 years. He was 21 and she was a high school sophomore when they began dating, according to one of her court declarations. In another declaration, her mother, Nadia Biryukova, wrote that they married in 2003 in her kitchen just before he was to be deported to Pakistan.
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And
One psychologist who evaluated Biryukova wrote in July 2010 that though she was dealing with "a severe form of obsessive compulsive disorder, I do not believe that interferes with her ability to be a compassionate, effective parent to her children."
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She says he beat her and the kids. Authorities noted the kids did have bruises at one point but no charges were filed. He says she cleaned their spotless empty refrigerator twice a day.

He was recently awarded visitation. Perhaps that triggered Mom to hide the baby? That almost seems as likely as that she accidentally killed the boy.
 
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