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Susan Clancy interview

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Susan Clancy, who wrote about repressed false memories in sexual abuse cases and alien abductions, is interviewed in Reason Online. On repressed memories of sexual abuse:

Reason: How prevalent is belief in recovered memories? Are they still commonly accepted as evidence in legal proceedings?


Clancy: Yes. It is unbelievable. All of the scientific research shows that repression is just preposterous. But most therapists believe that repression exists. And most people in the world believe that the concept of repression is real. I think that's because of movies and Hollywood, we see it depicted, it's just culturally out there.


Reason: But in the scientific community—


Clancy: It's dead. Dead, dead, dead. For five decades we've known that memory is reconstructive in nature; we've known that memories can be created. The whole issue of repression didn't become a hot topic until the 90s. And for the past ten years scientists have been arguing that repression is preposterous.


Reason: You deny the existence of recovered memories; how do you explain the fact that adults do sometimes suddenly remember being abused, and the accounts turn out to be accurate and traumatic?


Clancy: Ninety-five percent of child sex abuse cases are non-traumatic events, traumatic in the sense of being life threatening or physically painful. If you look at the data, what is most likely to happen to victims involves touching and kissing. It's not something that requires medical attention. The average age of sexual abuse victims is seven. You take a young kid who does not know about sex—no kid under ten is able to understand what sex is—you have a child who doesn't know about sex, and somebody they love and trust is touching them in a way that is not painful. Put yourself in the perspective of the victim. There is no way to understand what is happening to you is a crime. They just don't know. It becomes one of the millions of experiences kids have that they don't understand. And it's not surprising to me that many kids simply don't think about it until later on in life. At some point, later on, when they hit puberty in high school or college, they put two and two together, and they realize that it was wrong. It was abusive. And people refer to that as "I remembered."
That surprised me a little. I thought that some repressed memories could be real, but she seems to be suggesting none of them are. Does anyone know the latest on this subject? Is she overreaching?
 
Pretty funny. Great minds, you know. It is a pretty interesting interview.
 
Even better. Read the whole article.

Reason: You state in the book that pseudo-science is proliferating "more than ever." What's the evidence for that?

Clancy: We live in a scientific age, and still most people out there do not know how to think objectively or scientifically. Thinking in terms of probability or parsimony does not come naturally to any of us. And even when we do think scientifically, we're still capable of believing in things like alien abductions.

I think we're scientifically more sophisticated today than we have ever been, but there is no evidence that our belief in ghosts, or aliens, or macrobiotic diets, or the power of echinacea to kill colds has decreased. We are as interested in mysticism today as we were five decades go. Or forever as far as I can tell.

I think I am starting to like this woman.... Too bad she is married :).
 
Susan Clancy, who wrote about repressed false memories in sexual abuse cases and alien abductions, is interviewed in Reason Online. On repressed memories of sexual abuse:

That surprised me a little. I thought that some repressed memories could be real, but she seems to be suggesting none of them are. Does anyone know the latest on this subject? Is she overreaching?

There was a case detailed in Science News some years ago about a woman who's recovered memories about being abused by her older brother were later corroborated by the discovery of a diary he had kept of his 'experiments'. Sorry, I don't recall the exact issue; it was more than 10 years ago. The example was used to ilustrate that some are real. The article then went on to discuss the fact that many, if not most, are not such recovered memories are false.
 

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