Super immunity

[becomingagodo]

I was wondering did anyone else not have their TB jab?
Well I have never been abroad and never had TB infection if I did then I would be suriously ill as a child. Well everyone in my school in my year had the jab except one other person. My brother and my three sisters each had to have the TB jab. So I really don't know why I am immune to TB, the only thing I can think off is I have a super immune system(power trip). The reasoning behind this is I have very bad hayfever and if I take antibotics my body get bumps everywhere.

I just need a explanation like 0.07% of people are naturally immune to TB. Looking up on the subject just made me think of me having a super immune system like black people are twice as likely to show systems from TB. Reading Focus gave me the ultimate power trip as it said evolutionary speaking the best thing you can have is a good immune system, being from two ethical groups whites and black could mean I inherited a really good immune system.

Seriously can someone stop my power trip. I really don't like thinking I am better then everyone else evolutionary speaking because I have a good immune system.

 

[Modified]

I was wondering did anyone else not have their TB jab?
Well I have never been abroad and never had TB infection if I did then I would be suriously ill as a child. Well everyone in my school in my year had the jab except one other person. My brother and my three sisters each had to have the TB jab. So I really don't know why I am immune to TB, the only thing I can think off is I have a super immune system(power trip). The reasoning behind this is I have very bad hayfever and if I take antibotics my body get bumps everywhere.

I just need a explanation like 0.07% of people are naturally immune to TB. Looking up on the subject just made me think of me having a super immune system like black people are twice as likely to show systems from TB. Reading Focus gave me the ultimate power trip as it said evolutionary speaking the best thing you can have is a good immune system, being from two ethical groups whites and black could mean I inherited a really good immune system.

Seriously can someone stop my power trip. I really don't like thinking I am better then everyone else evolutionary speaking because I have a good immune system.

Have you had a TB test? It's quite possible that you've had TB and didn't know it. If I remember correctly, most cases of TB are symptomless.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

My ex-wife (an Ecuadorean) tested positive on the intradermal test. (What a horrible scare until we got the chest x-ray.) She didn't recall ever getting a vaccine, so we figured she must've been exposed somewhere along the line. Apparently that's common in places.

(By the way, she does seem to have a super immune system--she NEVER gets sick. My theory is that if you survived the first few years of life where and when she grew up, you had to have/develop lots of immunity.)

 

[Orangutan]

Not Me I am not immune. I found out when I went for mu US residency. At the time of immunization my my said I didn't have to have it if i didn't want to as it left a scar. I'm glad I didn't otherwise my test would have come back positive for antibodies which means a lot more paperwork for the INS.

 

[Cuddles]

As modified said, the most likely explanation is that you have already been exposed to TB. You say you have four siblings who did have the injection. Are these all older than you? If so, it is very likely you were exposed to TB by them. Even if you did not actually develop the disease you could have antibodies and therefore be rejected for vaccination yourself.

 

[Chris Haynes]

I was wondering did anyone else not have their TB jab?
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Do you mean the TB test or vaccine? The vaccine is referred to as BCG.

The TB/BCG vaccine is not used in the USA. What we did have was screening for TB which included a poke with 4 pins, and then a wait to check the reaction after about three days.

BUT... I had some Canadian friends in the former Panama Canal Zone who had been vaccinated for TB with the BCG, and that made the TB skin reactivity test useless. One of the side effects of the BCG vaccine is that the skin test will come up with a false postitive for TB infection.

More information here: http://www.cdc.gov/tb/pubs/tbfactsheets/bcg.htm

 

[Soapy Sam]

Seriously can someone stop my power trip. I really don't like thinking I am better then everyone else evolutionary speaking because I have a good immune system.

As requested, one powertrip stopper coming up. "being from two ethical groups whites and black could mean I inherited a really good immune system. "

Care to explain how black ethics and white ethics have anything to do with anything except you inherited a non super vocabulary?

So, what's "Reading Focus" anyway? (You have an international audience here. We're not all familiar with every detail of American culture).

Seriously- the newer strains of TB are nothing to mess with. TB used to be a mass killer in Europe. It still is in Africa, where African immune systems have failed to adapt to HIV- and TB is one of the big opportunistic killers of HIV sufferers. The way it's developing drug resistance, it soon may be as bad again in the west. Don't go taking any chances on the assumption you have a super immune system.
(Incidentally, AB blood gives high resistance to Cholera).

Africans have more genetic variability than the rest of mankind (who are descended from small groups who left Africa, way back when. ) Anything that hits Africa can hit the west as hard or harder, if drugs are not effective.

Oh- and if you're in America- you already are abroad. Humans have only been there about 13000 years. The diseases we have evolved resistance to are mostly afro-asian. "We're all Africans. Some are just purer than others." (I'm quoting a very pretty lady from Senegal).

Welcome to the forum , by the way.

 

[becomingagodo]

Care to explain how black ethics and white ethics have anything to do with anything except you inherited a non super vocabulary?

Well different ethical culture have different immune systems as diseases do vary. I heard that half caste people have a higher chance of getting schiofernia and autism, however I don't know about vocabulary. I blame computer games and T.V.

So, what's "Reading Focus" anyway?

Focus scientific magazine

You say you have four siblings who did have the injection.

Everyone has the TB jab unless they are immune to it. I could not possibly get exposed to TB from my brother or sisters as they haven't had TB. I can't think of anyone I know having TB. Some random person could have infected me.

Does being infected with TB make you immune to TB?

Don't go taking any chances on the assumption you have a super immune system.

I just thought of a way to get the million pounds. Well infect myself with a deadly virus and if I don't die then that proof of supernatural abillity.

 

[Modified]

Does being infected with TB make you immune to TB?

No. You can be reinfected, by a different strain or the same strain, or it can recur. There could be a pocket of TB festering in a cyst in your lung right now.

Both of my parents test positive for TB. They were never vaccinated and were never "sick" with TB. My mother has a lung cyst or scar that may or may not have been caused by symptomless TB; my father's lungs are clear.

 

[Soapy Sam]

Well different ethical culture have different immune systems as diseases do vary. I heard that half caste people have a higher chance of getting schiofernia and autism, however I don't know about vocabulary. I blame computer games and T.V.

I was kidding you. I thought you meant "ethnic" when you wrote "ethic".

Focus scientific magazine

Ah. Comprendo.

Everyone has the TB jab unless they are immune to it. I could not possibly get exposed to TB from my brother or sisters as they haven't had TB. I can't think of anyone I know having TB. Some random person could have infected me.

Does being infected with TB make you immune to TB?

Only for that strain. Traditionally, it mostly makes you dead.

I just thought of a way to get the million pounds. Well infect myself with a deadly virus and if I don't die then that proof of supernatural abillity.

Million pounds? Dollars. Roughly half a million pounds. You in the UK then? I supposed US. Most posters here are.
Nah. The challenge rules forbid doing anything potentially harmful , as JREF might be culpable if you snuffed it. Besides, if you're right and just have a good immune system, that's hardly paranormal. Just fortunate.

 

[blutoski]

I was wondering did anyone else not have their TB jab?
Well I have never been abroad and never had TB infection if I did then I would be suriously ill as a child. Well everyone in my school in my year had the jab except one other person. My brother and my three sisters each had to have the TB jab. So I really don't know why I am immune to TB, the only thing I can think off is I have a super immune system(power trip). The reasoning behind this is I have very bad hayfever and if I take antibotics my body get bumps everywhere.

I just need a explanation like 0.07% of people are naturally immune to TB. Looking up on the subject just made me think of me having a super immune system like black people are twice as likely to show systems from TB. Reading Focus gave me the ultimate power trip as it said evolutionary speaking the best thing you can have is a good immune system, being from two ethical groups whites and black could mean I inherited a really good immune system.

Seriously can someone stop my power trip. I really don't like thinking I am better then everyone else evolutionary speaking because I have a good immune system.

This is one of the thoughts that brought me into immunology. I have allergies, too, and originally thought that it was a sign of a 'better' immune system.

This is incorrect. The error in this is that immunity is qualitative, rather than quantitative. Allergies are a sign of a botched immune system: it's attacking something it shouldn't. It could very well then fail to attack something it should.

There are many types of illness caused by a 'strong' immune system: lupus, "rheumatic fever", rheumatoid arthritis, Type I diabetes, Graves Disease... many others that are less common. The trend right now is toward considering a lot of heart disease to be autoimmune in active mechanism.

Immune systems are a mix of 'born with' and 'developed by chance' and so even twins can have functionally different immune systems. Inheritance is a minor contributor to immune system effectiveness.

There is no evidence that people of blended heritage have a better immune system than others.

 

[blutoski]

I just thought of a way to get the million pounds. Well infect myself with a deadly virus and if I don't die then that proof of supernatural abillity.

My recollection is that the JREF Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge has traditionally rejected any claim for which claimant failure would spell death or severe injury. eg: breatharians, psychokinetic bullet-stoppers, building jumpers.

 

[Cuddles]

Everyone has the TB jab unless they are immune to it. I could not possibly get exposed to TB from my brother or sisters as they haven't had TB. I can't think of anyone I know having TB. Some random person could have infected me.

But they will have had the injection, which was my point. It is entirely possible that being exposed to someone who has recently had the BCG injection could be enough to cause you to give a positive reaction to the test later.

Rereading your posts, have you even been tested for TB? You say you think you have a special immune system because you have not been vaccinated, but you did not say anything about actually being tested. I assume what you mean is that you had the skin test for TB and came up positive and therefore didn't have the vaccination.

 

[Zep]

You could have been immunised when you were so young you can't remember.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

No. You can be reinfected, by a different strain or the same strain, or it can recur. There could be a pocket of TB festering in a cyst in your lung right now.

Don't say that!

I suffer from chronic hypochondriasis, and now I think I'm having trouble breathing.

 

[Modified]

Don't say that!

I suffer from chronic hypochondriasis, and now I think I'm having trouble breathing.

If you really do have TB, you'll forget all about that.

 

[LostAngeles]

I don't recall having been vaccinated for TB, but I do recall the little 4 pin poke test. Now, because I work with kids, I am required to get the test that goes under the skin. I've always come up negative.

I do, however, tend to only get mildly sick when I do pick up a virus. This probably comes from years of day care, working with kids, being in a public school, having a mother who works with kids, and living at school.

My world is a festering germ pit.