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Stubborn Fundy

Kochanski
i really thought about this one hard, i guess i have just gotten to the point that it's not worth it to argue anymore and that would lead to a doozy of an argument:p , i usually just write it out in my journal and try to get over myself before he comes home, my doc say's i have to keep "calm" i tried to talk him into taking hubby and the rest of the family off my hands for a week or so but he has known us for years so he just laughed at me and asked if i was trying to give HIM the heart attack:jaw-dropp ,
i try not to hold the frustration in because you are right it's not good for me, like i said i write it out or call my doctor or do like i did this morning,
i accidentally on purpose spilled all of his precious hand ground coffee beans and then called to tell him he would have to buy more before he can have his morning coffee and since he orders the stuff it will be at least a week:duck:
 
kerikiwi
i do understand what you are saying, i left my first husband more than 23 years ago because of abuse and i wasn't dependent on anything back then, things this time really are more complicated and the lose of respect is more for the fact that an extremely intelligent man can turn so stupid over an old book of myths and legends and somewhat over the rest of it, i have a real problem with people who are deliberately stupid and thats what this feels like to me, everyone has a right to be stupid but fundies seem to abuse the privilege
i have pretty much lived my life out with only one or two things that with hindsight i would tweak a little, maybe this will pass like everything eventually does and there is no physical danger except to him if i ever snap:mad:
 
ImaginalDisc
it has been a very loooong ten years but up until a year or so ago when my body decided it had had enough and tried to put in it's two week notice :rolleyes: things were so much easier,
i had a house full of kids i had taken in and a three acre garden and a four wheeler to ride and so much more, my life was so full that i didn't have time to let him pull me down, i had a million things to make me happy and give me the patients to deal with him, now there isn't a lot left so i have to deal with him more and more and he seems to get more fundy as each day goes by, if divorce or leaving were a real option right now i think i would go but it really isn't
i don't know about paulo but i might see if i could "borrow nikki sixx for a long week in the mountains:D :cool:
 
Miss Anthrope
it's strange but if asked he swears he respects me more than any woman he knows and i believe that at one time he did but he tries to treat me biblically or some such nonsense, he's always quoting scripture about the good wife and usually it just gets an eye roll:rolleyes: ,
he really thinks he's doing all he does to save my "soul" ,he told his cult leader that i was his pearl without price or whatever that verse says, yes it is demeaning sometimes but he really doesn't mean to hurt me he's just so frakin buried in this fundy nonsense and i let it get to me this morning with the chick @#$%
 
Darth Rotor
when we met he was a pretty devoted christain but he was miles away from fundy, an old earth kinda deist i guess, god created the world millions of years ago, came back created man and then left us to earn our way to heaven,
i was an agnostic,i didn't believe in god really but figured there might be a slim possibility i might be wrong about his version and as i didn't really care either way i just didn't put much thought into it, i used to joke with him that when zeus or jesus came to lunch and actually answered some questions then i would believe in one or the other, he always laughed and said he had sent the r.s.v.p but had not heard back yet,
as for how he got to where he is with out me, i don't know if this explains or not but here goes,
back then if he wanted me to go to church i did and if i wanted to sleep in he stayed home and we slept in, but some where along the way he met a preacher from Michigan who moved to our little middle GA spot in the road and fell in love, yes fell in love or at least gives all appearances of it,

for about a year i thought he had a girl friend, the late night phone calls, the hang up calls, working longer than normal, places he just had to go without me, a private email Addy when he had never needed one before, just a lot of little things that added up to affair and oh how i wish thats what it had been,

i am not a jealous kinda person and he had had an affair a few years before,he was pretty torn up about it but it was just something that happened and it was over so he went a counsler and worked it out,
then the new one started, the only problem was it was not what i thought and the conman jerk had plenty of time to get his claws in deep,
i don't think i ever had a chance even after i found out and after about 2 years of frustration i left,
i let him talk me into getting back together because i loved him and he cooled the nonsense for awhile, by the time i realized he was still caught up in it, i was starting to have some health problems and i had also taken in 3 kids who would have been thrown into the foster care system if i left again,also our 3 kids were still at home along with 2 new grandbabies and assorted boy/girlfriends( we had 11 kids in the house at the time)
so we worked a compromise, he left me alone and i left him alone,
we did not discuss religion or politics and he left the kids strictly to me and it worked just fine, up until last year when i had to quit taking care of kids and we moved to a smaller place to take some stress off of me physically,

now we are at the chick stage again and i was raving a good bit this morning,
i normally don't "unload" like that but i was pretty frustrated with the track thing,
the only way i would ever get "born again" is if they figure out how to literally reincarnate me, there is no way i could check my brain at the door and buy into the garbage his church spews forth, i have hope that maybe his common sense will eventually reassert itself but that hope is almost gone so i guess that also led to my ranting this morning
i have suggested a counselor but he is adamant that we do not need one, he did volunteer his preacher to come talk to me, that went over like a lead balloon, i know what that man is and snake oil salesmen doesn't begin to cover it,

thank you for taking time to answer me, just reading and then answering has helped lighten my mood alot as it feels like i'm not as cut off as i was feeling
thanks
 
fuelair


thanks fuelair i hope so too, oh and i think Cthulhu rocks:D
 
slingblade


that was the one i used when i did leave when this started, worked too:cool:
there i was thinkin it was the bbq kittens the dark side had going for it:confused: :)
 
I do understand what you are saying gypsey, feel free to come and rant to us when things get to be too much.

I still think you should get a big black marker and go to town on the chick tract, it could be lots of fun for you :D

That and get yourself one of the t shirts that say "When the rapture comes can I have your car?" :D
 
slingblade said:
Even the bible is on your side, or the side of Splitsville, anyway.

"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness?" 2 Corinthians 6:14 (KJV)
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Hey sling don't forget about what 1 Cor.7:13-15 says... And a woman who has an unbelieving husband, and he consents to live with her, she must not send her husband away. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband; for otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy. Yet if the unbelieving one leaves, let him leave; the brother or the sister is not under bondage in such cases, but God has called us to peace.

So how do you know in this case,the man is a believer and the wife not ,what if gypsy will be saved through her husbands faith? I still try to understand these issues more myself but I do know God sees the two as one and surely wants neither to perish. So what do you think about that?
 
kurious_kathy said:
Hey sling don't forget about what 1 Cor.7:13-15 says... And a woman who has an unbelieving husband, and he consents to live with her, she must not send her husband away. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband; for otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy. Yet if the unbelieving one leaves, let him leave; the brother or the sister is not under bondage in such cases, but God has called us to peace.

So how do you know in this case,the man is a believer and the wife not ,what if gypsy will be saved through her husbands faith? I still try to understand these issues more myself but I do know God sees the two as one and surely wants neither to perish. So what do you think about that?
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Wow. Lurking a little on this thread. After all that's been posted here up until now, I have to say that this is one of the most offensive bits of tripe I have every had the displeasure of reading on these forums.

Best wishes gypsey.
 
Maybe kurious_kathy and your husband could hook up and solve several problems at once. :)
 
D'rok the Lacone said:
Wow. Lurking a little on this thread. After all that's been posted here up until now, I have to say that this is one of the most offensive bits of tripe I have every had the displeasure of reading on these forums.
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She's like that. She manages to offend everyone very quickly.

She'll probably do a two-week show (with matinees) and then flake off...er, take off again. Until she decides to grace us with her never-changing, never-learning, ever-clueless schpiel once more.
 
Kochanski
I do understand what you are saying gypsey, feel free to come and rant to us when things get to be too much.

I still think you should get a big black marker and go to town on the chick tract, it could be lots of fun for you

That and get yourself one of the t shirts that say "When the rapture comes can I have your car?"
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thank you:th: it does feel good to have a place to come to where people are so kind, i actually had a bumper sticker like that but it got ruined somehow:eek:
 
D'rok the Lacone
Best wishes gypsey.
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thank you :D


grayman
Maybe kurious_kathy and your husband could hook up and solve several problems at once.
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i have lurked here for quite awhile and have to admit that through several threads where kk has posted the thought of introducing hubby to her popped into my head:degrin:
they seem to have so much stupidity in common, but do you think that 2 self centered self righteous narcissistic people could get along or would that be to much ego for anything to develop:wackyunsure:
 
slingblade
Originally Posted by D'rok the Lacone
Wow. Lurking a little on this thread. After all that's been posted here up until now, I have to say that this is one of the most offensive bits of tripe I have every had the displeasure of reading on these forums.
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She's like that. She manages to offend everyone very quickly.

She'll probably do a two-week show (with matinees) and then flake off...er, take off again. Until she decides to grace us with her never-changing, never-learning, ever-clueless schpiel once more.
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:wackynotworthy:
 
For a start, G, you could save up those tracts, then use then as fire-starters of a cold evening. Burn them right up in front of him. Make sure he sees you using them, and that they are all gone. That way they can't ever be used again, you give him a slap in the face, and he may just get a clue.

Chances are he won't try to give them to you again after that. ;)

Other than that, I would second the opinions of seeking legal options about going your own way, and kicking him to the curb. Already you are acting as though you are divorced - you have lost respect for him and don't wish his company. Put it this way: If you were single and met him today, would you consider being married to him? If not, why are you still married now?

I'm sure there are decent affordable options for insurance and other expenses outside of being married to him. And he wants to ditch that lifeline anyway and let God provide (Q: Does that mean his fundie ways are now seriously jeopardising his income??).

Good luck!

And again, this is the opinion of someone anonymous on the internet. Please seek your own reliable support network, and/or a good lawyer!
 
Zep
For a start, G, you could save up those tracts, then use then as fire-starters of a cold evening. Burn them right up in front of him. Make sure he sees you using them, and that they are all gone. That way they can't ever be used again, you give him a slap in the face, and he may just get a clue.

Chances are he won't try to give them to you again after that.
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:degrin: i love this idea, we used to have bonfires at my daughters place every few weeks but haven't been able to lately( because it's so dry) so i could take them with me for the next one, we are always looking for more stuff to burn:D



Good luck!
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thank you :)
 
gypsey : I recommend The Battle For God by Karen Armstrong

http://www.amazon.com/Battle-God-Karen-Armstrong/dp/0345391691

for an insight into fundamentalism and its attractions.

The fundamentalism you're describing is, as Armstrong would put it, bad religion. And it's bad science. It's just bad. Aberrant.

Your husband has sunk deeper and deeper into a comfort-zone, which is why you won't shift him. By now his high opinion of himself simply blows away whatever your opinion might be. That's the antithesis of a healthy relationship.

What he's got into isn't religious at all. Religion is about feelings, shared rituals, myths and stories that reinforce communities. Your husband - and his fundie ilk - reduce themselves to legalisms and absolutes. They try to defend myth by logic. Missing the point entirely.

Real religion underpins human societies by reflecting them. It makes allowances. It's not in conflict with science or logic, there's no field they could meet on. Fundie religion isn't religion at all, it's just an alternative science that puts fundies at centre-stage.
 
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