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StopSylviaBrowne: AC360 - Browne's Best Evidence?

You are devastatingly lucid and rational. Not to mention exceedingly fair.

You know, just once I'd like you to drop the c-word in one of your articles. Just once. Pretty please? ;) :p
 
Another excellent article, bravo !

After all this, you'd think the believers would start thinking ...
 
Robert, you're like the posse that chased Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid. You don't own a white skimmer hat do you?
 
Bob- a very minor quibble- on point 6, Ted Gunderson, you comment that this is an endorsement from someone who believes in Browne's (hypothetical) abilities.

This is circular. She will get no endorsement, by definition, from anyone else.
 
One point on the Sharon James letter. YOu give Sylvia a 50/50 on saying her son would be found alive/return.

However, the information provided indicates that Ms James told Sylvia in her reading that her son had a history of disappearing and returning (on multiple occasions).

This clearly wasn't a 50/50 bet for Sylvia. Faced with the same call, I would tell the subject that her son would return/be found alive (yet again), expecting a better than 50% chance of being correct.
 
More Gunderson Wackiness

If you're looking for an entertaining read check out an interview with Sylvia Browne's FBI champion Ted Gunderson by typing "Ted Gunderson Interview TRACYRTWYMAN" in Google. (Sorry, can't post URL's)

Some choice bits:

1) Gunderson claims to have photos of George Bush Sr. sexually abusing children. These photos are inconveniently located in a cave in Colorado, under the care of a fellow named "Rusty."

2) Actor Chuck Norris was involved in the infamous McMartin preschool sexual abuse case (see Wikipedia).

3) The bodyguard of Hustler Magazine publisher Larry Flynt once attempted to assassinate Gunderson. Gunderson is apparently a marked man. He is the subject of constant harassment and surveillance. Fiendish CIA goons even tamper with the direction signal of his car!

4) Disneyland is a training ground for Satanic child kidnappers.

There's plenty more good stuff on the net about this loon. I've found that, allegedly, one of the reasons he was forced to retire from the FBI was for resorting to psychics too frequently!
 
Here is the link referred to by Clerlhew80 http://tracyrtwyman.com/blog/?page_id=83

Edit If Ted Gunderson is right then CT is true + worse.

Two extra links would be good.
A link to the CNN web site would be good.

And a link to a CNN page that shows that the story run on January 19 2007, CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 show was what you said it was and not something you made up.
 
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JLam said:
You are devastatingly lucid and rational. Not to mention exceedingly fair.
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Thank you sir.

You know, just once I'd like you to drop the c-word in one of your articles. Just once. Pretty please? ;) :p
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"Charlatan?" :)

Flo said:
Another excellent article, bravo !
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Thanks, Flo!

CFLarsen said:
Check with Sharon James if the phone reading was free.
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Good idea.

Reno said:
Robert, you're like the posse that chased Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid. You don't own a white skimmer hat do you?
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Not that I would admit to.

Soapy Sam said:
This is circular. She will get no endorsement, by definition, from anyone else.
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Thanks Sam, but I don't think it is circular. Redundant, perhaps. But someone can endorse some other aspect of Browne (such as her theology) yet not her "abilities." So I risked a little redundancy to make the point clearer. You may be right, but I think I'll lave it, warts and all.

Geckko said:
This clearly wasn't a 50/50 bet for Sylvia. Faced with the same call, I would tell the subject that her son would return/be found alive (yet again), expecting a better than 50% chance of being correct.
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Understood, Geckko, thanks. There were several points like this in the article where I could have torn her predictions apart even further, but I left them alone, as the article was getting a bit lengthy, and I felt I had made my point anyway. Had the article been solely about that one reading, I would have gone into more detail, such as what you suggest.

clerihew80 said:
If you're looking for an entertaining read check out an interview with Sylvia Browne's FBI champion Ted Gunderson by typing "Ted Gunderson Interview TRACYRTWYMAN" in Google.
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Thanks, clerihew! I have added that to the article.

rjh01 said:
Two extra links would be good.
A link to the CNN web site would be good.

And a link to a CNN page that shows that the story run on January 19 2007, CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 show was what you said it was and not something you made up.
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I added one to the Jan 19 show, thanks for the idea, rjh.

I don't understand the value of a link simply to CNN.com, though. What was your thought there?
 
You should point out, regarding Ted Gunderson, he retired before Browne "discovered" her purported abilities.

Thus, even if one wants to believe Gunderson, Browne and him never worked on a single case FOR the FBI.
 
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clerihew80 said:
If you're looking for an entertaining read check out an interview with Sylvia Browne's FBI champion Ted Gunderson by typing "Ted Gunderson Interview TRACYRTWYMAN" in Google. (Sorry, can't post URL's)

There's plenty more good stuff on the net about this loon. I've found that, allegedly, one of the reasons he was forced to retire from the FBI was for resorting to psychics too frequently!
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Gunderson seems willing to lend his "FBI investigator" status to any number of CT sites on the web. He's a valuable asset to the woo community.
 
When I go to the main forum page at http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/index.php all the Stop Sylvia Browne threads show up simply as "StopSylviaBrowne ..." (all text following "StopSylviaBrowne" is replaced with "..."), making it difficult to differentiate one thread from another. I can often tell if it's a new thread by looking at when it was posted, but if it's an older one I can't.

Has anyone else noticed this, or is there an option I can tweak to see full thread titles on the home page?

Robert, could you perhaps prefix your articles with "SSB:" instead of the full "StopSylviaBrowne"?
 
Blue Mountain said:
When I go to the main forum page at http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/index.php all the Stop Sylvia Browne threads show up simply as "StopSylviaBrowne ..." (all text following "StopSylviaBrowne" is replaced with "..."), making it difficult to differentiate one thread from another. I can often tell if it's a new thread by looking at when it was posted, but if it's an older one I can't.

Has anyone else noticed this, or is there an option I can tweak to see full thread titles on the home page?

Robert, could you perhaps prefix your articles with "SSB:" instead of the full "StopSylviaBrowne"?
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How about StopSylvia? I suggest this as SSB is a common shortening for http://www.silverstrikebowling.com/ssb2/SSB/
 
Blue Mountain said:
When I go to the main forum page at http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/index.php all the Stop Sylvia Browne threads show up simply as "StopSylviaBrowne ..." (all text following "StopSylviaBrowne" is replaced with "..."), making it difficult to differentiate one thread from another. I can often tell if it's a new thread by looking at when it was posted, but if it's an older one I can't.

Has anyone else noticed this, or is there an option I can tweak to see full thread titles on the home page?

Robert, could you perhaps prefix your articles with "SSB:" instead of the full "StopSylviaBrowne"?
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Just hold your mouse over the name without clicking on it. It will reveal the content.
 
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